On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 12:17:03PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote: > Am 27.09.2021 um 10:21 hat Daniel P. Berrangé geschrieben: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:15:43AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > > > On 24/09/21 11:04, Kevin Wolf wrote: > > > > We want to switch both from QemuOpts to the keyval parser in the future, > > > > which results in some incompatibilities, mainly around list handling. > > > > Mark the non-JSON version of both as unstable syntax so that management > > > > tools switch to JSON and we can later make the change without breaking > > > > things. > > > > > > Maybe we need a different section for unstable syntaxes, rather than > > > overloading deprecated.rst? > > > > This case feels like it hits two scenarios - we want to declare it > > unstable, which is something we should document in qemu-options.hx. > > Actually, I think a section for unstable syntaxes or generally > compatibility promises wouldn't hurt. When I checked, I couldn't find > any documentation about the support status of HMP either. > > Basically, I imagine HMP and non-JSON -device/-object would be on the > same level: We don't change things without a reason, but if we do want > to change things, compatibility isn't an argument against making the > change. > > > We want to also to warn of specific breakage when the impl changes > > which is something suitable for deprecations. > > We don't do this for HMP either for individual changes. Well HMP as a whole is considered non-stable, so we don't need to call out individual things. We've got a simple story that QMP == stable, HMP == unstable. The comparison here would be if we declared the entire QEMU CLI to be unstable, except for JSON syntax args. > Basically this deprecation notice was meant to make people aware that > we're lowering the support status from a long-term stable interface to > HMP-like. Bearing in mind our previous discussions it feels like our goal is that we're tending towards a world where we are only wanting to consider JSON based configuration to be stable, and everything else non-stable. I think that's a good long term plan, but if we're really doing that then I think we need to big picture explain it in our docs rather than mention it in passing against individual args. BTW I'm also not a fan of deprecating stuff when our documentation is still using the deprecated syntax and nothing shows the new preferred syntax. We've got alot of results for $ git grep -- ' -object' Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|