On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 04:49:17PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 03:22:41PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 04:02:56PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote: > > > Am 14.01.2021 um 14:59 hat Daniel P. Berrangé geschrieben: > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 01:52:34PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 01:59:43PM -0500, John Snow wrote: > > > > > > On 1/13/21 3:53 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:10 PM John Snow <jsnow@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > 2. Ability to watch QMP activity on a running QEMU process, e.g. even > > > > > > > when libvirt is directly connected to the monitor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That *WOULD* be extremely cool, and moves a lot closer to how mitmproxy > > > > > > works. > > > > > > > > > > > > (Actually, mitmproxy could theoretically be taught how to read and > > > > > > understand QMP traffic, but that's not something I know how to do or would > > > > > > be prepared to mentor.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this possible to do in a post-hoc fashion? Let's say you are using > > > > > > production environment QEMU, how do we attach the QMP listener to it? Or > > > > > > does this idea require that we start QEMU in a specific fashion with a > > > > > > second debug socket that qmp-shell can connect to in order to listen? > > > > > > > > > > > > ... Or do we engineer qmp-shell to open its own socket that libvirt connects > > > > > > to ...? > > > > > > > > > > Here is the QEMU command-line that libvirt uses on my F33 system: > > > > > > > > > > -chardev socket,id=charmonitor,fd=36,server,nowait > > > > > -mon chardev=charmonitor,id=monitor,mode=control > > > > > > > > > > Goals for this feature: > > > > > > > > > > 1. No manual steps required for setup. > > > > > 2. Ability to start/stop monitoring traffic at runtime without > > > > > restarting QEMU. > > > > > 3. Available to unprivileged users. > > > > > > > > > > I think the easiest way to achieve this is through a new QEMU monitor > > > > > command. Approaches that come to mind: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Add a -mon debug-chardev property and a QMP command to set it at > > > > > runtime. The debug-chardev receives both monitor input (commands) and > > > > > output (responses and events). This does not allow MITM, rather it > > > > > mirrors traffic. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Add a chardev-get-fd command that fetches the fd from a chardev and > > > > > then use the existing chardev-change command to replace the monitor > > > > > chardev with a chardev connected to qmp-shell. This inserts qmp-shell > > > > > as a proxy between the QMP client and server. qmp-shell can remove > > > > > itself again with another chardev-change command. This approach > > > > > allows MITM. The downside is it assumes the QMP chardev is a file > > > > > descriptor, so it won't work with all types of chardev. > > > > > > > > > > 3. Add a new chardev-proxy type that aggregates 3 chardevs: 1. an origin > > > > > source chardev, 2. a monitoring sink chardev, and 3. a monitoring > > > > > source chardev. The data flow is origin <-> monitoring sink <-> > > > > > monitoring source <-> QMP monitor. qmp-shell creates the monitoring > > > > > sink (for receiving incoming QMP commands) and monitoring source > > > > > chardev (for forwarding QMP commands or MITM commands), and then it > > > > > uses change-chardev to instantiate a chardev-proxy that directs the > > > > > original libvirt chardev through the monitoring sink and source. > > > > > > > > > > This is the most complex but also completely contained within the > > > > > QEMU chardev layer. > > > > > > I have an idea for the QMP command name: chardev-snapshot-sync! > > > > > > Finally we get backing file chains for chardevs! :-) > > > > > > > > In all these approaches qmp-shell uses virsh qemu-monitor-command or an > > > > > equivalent API to start/stop monitoring a running VM without manual > > > > > setup steps. > > > > > > > > Why go to the trouble of adding more chardevs to a running QEMU that > > > > libvirt has. qmp-shell can just directly use the libvirt Python API > > > > to invoke virDomainQemuMonitorCommand to invoke QMP commands, and > > > > the othe API for receiving QMP events. > > > > > > > > Essentially it just needs to be split into two layers. The upper > > > > layer works in terms of individual QMP command/replies, and QMP > > > > events. The lower layer provides a transport that is either a > > > > UNIX socket, or is the libvirt QMP passthrough API. > > > > > > > > Or alternatively, provide a virt-qmp-shim command that listens on > > > > a UNIX socket, accepts QMP commands and turns them into calls to > > > > virDomainQemuMonitorCommand, and funnells back the response. > > > > > > I think the idea was to show the QMP traffic that libvirt produces for > > > other management applications, not for the QMP shell. These APIs > > > probably don't allow this? > > > > FWIW if you want to monitor what libvirt is sending/receiving we have > > a script for that that uses our systemtap probe points: > > > > https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/blob/master/examples/systemtap/qemu-monitor.stp > > Does that require root? Yeah, systemtap generally requires root. The same info is also written to the log files. For example: virt-admin daemon-log-filters "2:qemu_monitor_json" virt-admin daemon-lop-outputs "2:file:/var/log/libvirt/libvirtd.log" nb, i'm using level '2' there to avoid enabling debug logs, only info level logs which is the level dynamic probes log at. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|
