Re: [PATCH for 5.2.0] docs: Add virt-lightning app

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On 4/3/19 5:03 PM, Ján Tomko wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 02:10:19PM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote:
>> On 4/1/19 8:19 AM, Michal Privoznik wrote:
>>> There was this introduction made on the users list:
>>>
>>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvirt-users/2019-March/msg00046.html
>>>
>>> Add the application onto the list of apps known to use libvirt.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> ---
>>>  docs/apps.html.in | 6 ++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/docs/apps.html.in b/docs/apps.html.in
>>> index 209854b6ac..62914b575a 100644
>>> --- a/docs/apps.html.in
>>> +++ b/docs/apps.html.in
>>> @@ -99,6 +99,12 @@
>>>          machines. It is a command line tool for developers that
>>> makes it very
>>>          fast and easy to deploy and re-deploy an environment of vm's.
>>>        </dd>
>>> +      <dt><a
>>> href="https://github.com/virt-lightning/virt-lightning";>virt-lightning</a></dt>
>>>
>>> +      <dd>
>>> +        Virt-Lightning uses libvirt, cloud-init and libguestfs to
>>> allow anyone
>>> +        to quickly start new VM. Very much like a container CLI
>>> interface, but
>>> +        locally.
>>> +      </dd>
>>>      </dl>
>>>
>>>      <h2><a id="configmgmt">Configuration Management</a></h2>
>>>
>>
>> I don't get the point of keeping this as a static page in git. It's
>> always going to be out of date, or needing tweaks that IMO add noise to
>> the dev mailing list.
> 
> The changes proposed to this page have always shown a high
> signal-to-noise ratio and are neligible to all the other changes made to
> libvirt source code.
>

I didn't say it was _much_ noise :) But I take your point

>> Can't this be a wiki page?
>
> One argument against a wiki page would be that the barrier for
> contributing is higher.
>
> To get your change merged in git, all you need is to send an e-mail.
>

There's three cases:

1) contributor asks someone else to add app to the list
2) new contributor does it themselves
3) existing contributor does it themselves

In both wiki and git worlds, #1 is just an email 'hey this app exists'.
Like the case above: someone mentioned it on the list, and michal is
adjusting apps.html for them

#2 is not just an email: it's git clone, make the change, hopefully test
it, then send it.

#2 for the wiki yes it's painful for drive by contributors because they
need to request an account, possibly more painful depending on how
comfortable people are with git.

#3 for both cases is indistinguishably low effort. Except the git case
always requires minimum 2 mails to libvir-list.

And every git case requires some reviewer bandwidth, CI triggering and a
permanent git commit.

Anyways I'm not gonna die on this hill, I've said my piece (again ;) ),
if no one else is on board I'll shut up about it

>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cole
> 
> No, thanks.
> 

(no?) Thanks,
Cole

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