Ok, here's some more I've found on the cdrom problem: Virtual console 3: * faile to mount loop: No such device Virtual console 4: <4> Unable to identify CD-ROM format. <4> VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev loop(7,0). Anyone else seen this with the cdrom problems? Any insights as to what this is? Dan -- ======================== Daniel Wittenberg System Administrator University of Iowa http://dan.its.uiowa.edu