On March 20, 2016 11:33:01 PM EDT, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim@nadim.computer> wrote: >2) I have asked now multiple times, here in my previous email and on >the IRC channel, where I can find the repository for the website so >that I can actually submit proposals for changes so that they can be >concretely evaluated. Although the Fedora Project is supposed to be >open and welcoming to contributions, everyone I've asked this to >(including you) has ignored my question. No one has given me a resource >on where I can actually submit my tangible proposals for changes to the >website so that they can be reviewed. Do I have to copy the website on >my own server and make the changes so that I can show them to the team >for evaluation? Why is no one pointing me to the repository? How can I >be more constructive when I'm not being helped with this crucial >aspect? All of this is not constructive. Here is a suggestion as to what all of the above should have said: "Where is the website repo?" The rest is unconstructive and ranty. ~m > >Thank you for your response, >Nadim >________________________________________ >From: Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:14 AM >To: Nadim Kobeissi; websites@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: Replace Terrible Photos on GetFedora.org Workstation >Website > >On 03/20/2016 11:06 AM, nadim@nadim.computer wrote: >> However, what comes after that is the problem: the Workstation has a >bunch of sentences that either make very specific technical references >or in general contribute little value to selling the project. These >could be fixed by focusing on a more general introduction to the >desktop environment, daily-use features, and cutting-edge differences >that separate Fedora from other desktop operating systems. >Some specifics would be helpful. >> >> The most critical problem I have with the website are the photos: >they're incredibly bad. The photos are of, literally, decade-old >ThinkPads > >The top photo is of a Thinkpad Carbon X1 that, at the time the photo >was >taken, was a couple of months old. I believe at this point it's a >little >over a year, which makes sense since the website was launched with F21 >which was ~1 year ago. >> that are completely covered in dirt and dust, running Fedora. > >There is one photo, taken of an actual real Fedora user, where there is >some light reflecting on the screen and there's some dust on the >screen. >Sure, we could process that photo to remove that. We can do that. I >don't think it's the huge deal you're portraying it to be. Also, her >laptop is a Thinkpad and it cannot be older than 3 years, likely was >1-2 >years old at the time of the photoshoot. > >I appreciate constructive feedback, but spinning a laptop that is at >most 3 years old to be 10 years old is really not constructive. I used >a >Thinkpad in 2006, it was a T41 and it looked quite a bit different and >was noticeably thicker with a much smaller screen and was less >sleek-looking. >> It's like a caricature of a Linux distro website. I find that to be >very off-putting and unprofessional. > >Again, let's be constructive. This is not. >> These photos should be replaced quickly and I can't believe they've >been on the website every time I've gone to download a Fedora image >over the past two years! >This site has been active for 1 year, not 2. >> They can at least be replaced with photos of clean ThinkPads, and >better yet, laptops where what's actually on the screen is an >interesting Fedora use-case that is clearly visible in the photo. >> >> If anyone can point me to the correct repository for the website, I >will make pull requests with suggestions to make the website more >reasonable, and I will also contribute content and try to make the page >more useful and accessible to people interested in Fedora. Right now, >the website seems to be made by Fedora users and seems to target people >who *already* use Fedora, which is very near-sighted and ultimately a >bad strategy. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- websites mailing list websites@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/websites@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
