On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mario Santagiuliana <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Just a little reply...maybe this thing should be discuss on fedora
ambassadors mailing list...
It should much great to work with existing and active Italian fedora
ambassadors and not with single person that don't collaborate with other
people or other teams.
Dear Mario, I do not think this is the place to have a discussion with these tones, as shareable, I do not think that others are interested in reading these boring things.
I prefer, and I think users prefer too, to see one specific local and
"official" community portal.
I believe he was told there was no distinction between official and local? Or am I wrong.
What users will prefer them to decide, I do not think you can take arbitrarily the right to say what users prefer, it is not a democratic reasoning.
I am really disappointed to view this request from Stefano Mainardi and
Antonio Trande. They don't really collaborate with existing Italian Fedora
community...and with Italian Fedora Ambassadors. I and other Italian Fedora
Ambassadors read this request from fedora-website mailing list and not from
a discussion in our team.
For me personally do not collaborate with the various ambassadors, but I know exactly that different users who attend "Fedora-it" have been very active in the "official" community.
I've done in the past, but I follow and actively collaborate with other open-source projects, I say this to clarify my position with you, if you need to clear ideas about me. Even a simple Google search might help.
I hope fedoraproject collaborator could understand my point of view and my
English...I am fed up to see division and not collaboration in Italian
country. I am fed up to see works of people for a not clarify personal
ending instead of community benefit.
For me is not correct to give more evidence to a new little portal build
from a commercial company (twinbit) without asking collaboration or at
least an opinion from existing Italian Fedora community.
There are many inaccuracies in your personal conclusions, some really biased.
First of all Twinbit does not own the domain and not affiliated in any way the network of portals ILDN. Twinbit is the company of which I am a member, who developed the new portals based on Drupal, for free. Nobody gets the money from these activities.
ILDN is a nonprofit association that has existed since 2004, and we have a long history of activity that I would not be here to remind you, but you can again go looking for doing simple searches on Google.
But I'd like to remind you of how "Fedoraonline" was born as a clone of "Fedoraitalia" (the current "Fedora-it") and in terms of CMS used, both in terms of graphics, when the only Italian portal Fedora was dedicated to what was to ILDN.
I remember that we tried the road of cooperation, but without success, remember that in those days were in agreement that having two portals was not a reason why users might be confused, why today you have changed ideas about this?
I also like to remember that when "Fedoraitalia" was closed for reasons internal to ILDN, Fedoraonline was the backup of "salvation" for users who were left without a supportive community.
Fedora-it is an historical project of ILDN, and do not see why this hostility in a parallel project to yours, there is room for everyone on the Internet.
We absolutely do not care to have the voice of "official" status, users tend to not care about these things, users are looking for answers to their problems and seek people willing to help, and seek quality material.
Our goal is simply to give support even Fedora which is a huge project, and we picked up a project born in 2004, and not make war with anyone, this is clear.
Cheers.
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