On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:02:01PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 17:42 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 06:59:21PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 16:17 +0100, Adam Pribyl wrote: > > > > Well I've read the FAQ twice, but it is not obvious to me what this is. Do > > > > I understand correctly this is CD that downloads at the beginning the menu > > > > from net and then starts the usuall network install of selected system? Or > > > > does the menu entries start the pxeboot that loads an installation > > > > system from network as usuall pxe system boot? (Also it is not very > > > > obvious what to do with bfo.usb image..) > > > > > > Yep I think that's about what it does. Okay. > > > > > > So let's think about this for a sec: > > > > > > - When we have users pick what arch / other flavor of Fedora they want > > > from the website, it makes them have to sift through more choices but > > > there's supporting material right there. > > > > Just to make sure I understand what you wrote here... Do you mean > > that, a user is sifting throught those choices on the "more choices" > > page in get.fp.o, and therefore it's natural that a choice for the > > boot.fp.o images be there too? I'm not questioning that, just want to > > make sure I understand what you wrote. > > > > No, what I'm trying to say is that boot.fpo has choices of Fedoras to > install, and www.fpo has choices of Fedoras to install. We're > duplicating the functionality of www.fpo in the actual boot image. OK, I see -- thanks for clarifying for me. > So here's where it gets weird: > > - I go to get.fpo and there's all these different Fedoras to download. > Wow, how do I make a decision? > > - I decide to go with boot.fpo, for whatever reason. It asks me to > decide which Fedora to install from all these choices.... > > - So many choices, I'm overwhelmed. Is there any difference in this problem if the boot.fpo choice only exists on get-fedora-all, or whatever takes over that function in the redone pages that are underway? Maybe... iff. get-fedora-all is somewhere that experienced, technical people end up. > I don't think boot.fpo is going to be a good option for regular users. > They're going to want more support to help them decide what choice to > make than I think boot.fpo can give them. I think (please correct me if > I'm wrong) is a great tool for experienced, technical folks who do a lot > of installs and want one versatile image they can use to install > whatever kind of Fedora they need to install. I agree. A regular user could end up baffled. > However, I think the users we're trying to reach out to and support with > get.fpo are those folks who only have one computer to worry about - not > the type of folks to install an entire lab of machines or the kind of > folks who need a versatile swiss-army-knife boot image. The overall get-fedora page is still meant to provide a clear choice for a single download, with some space reserved for people who are experienced and curious. The href for the extra "other choices" links (get-fedora-all? I don't know if we're using that page name in the future, we might be) might be a place where boot.fpo fits. Or it might not. But I agree with you. > Therefore, I don't think the boot.fpo image necessarily belongs on > get.fpo. Within the framework of the recent design mockups, it could go > under the 'formats' tab, but those haven't been implemented yet. I worry > in that case though, too, that its usage is specialized enough that it > might cause confusion for folks who know enough to know the arch of > their system but don't necessarily have any use for boot.fpo. > > But I may be misassessing the situation. > > > > - If the users download the boot.fpo image and use that, we're shifting > > > that choice from the website to the boot.fpo image's menus. If I wanted > > > to install the x86 version of Fedora 12, how would i do that from here? > > > > After you boot the boot.fp.o ISO image, you can choose architecture > > and release from the menu under the "Install" option. > > That's what I suspected. It's like get.fpo > more options inside the > boot image. Right. Is there any URL through which we can successfully let people know this option is available, without mucking up the people for whom get.fp.o itself is intended? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- websites mailing list websites@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites