Re: Gremlins! - "Join Fedora" captcha is Unreadable

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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >> >> > At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
> >> >> > shot of the capcha our way?
> >> >> >
> >> >> Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
> >> >> 40-50 refreshes.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
> >> > We'll have to see what options we have.
> >> >
> >> >        -Mike
> >>
> >> I don't think it's an opinion one as much as what a particular eye can
> >> see.  In my case, I can read 'most' of them with little to no effort,
> >> but there were at least 3 that I had to squint or move closer to read.
> >>  I've had perfect vision all of my life.  What I don't understand is
> >> the value of having colored boxes that make it extremely difficult for
> >> the eyes to focus on the letters.
> >>
> >> BTW, I understand what a captcha is and its intended purpose, but I
> >> would argue that this is only one step of many for preventing computer
> >> bots to invade the fedora project.  Mitigation is the goal here, I
> >> don't think it's possible to eliminate all bots, but it is possible to
> >> eliminate a few potential contributors because of something simple
> >> like this getting in the way.
> >>
> >
> > it's a new technology to us, I'd rather try to get it fixed before
> > abandoning it.
> >
> >        -Mike
>
> Oh, I wasn't suggesting abandoning it, I think it's great.  I just
> wonder if we could tone it down some.  Sorry if I implied such a
> thing, I am excited to see that we're using CAPTCHA.
>

I'm not actually sure, here's the app we're using:

http://code.google.com/p/tgcaptcha/

It's a pretty easy change to start using Vanasco-Dowty but it gets tricky.
neither one is particularly easy to read (which I guess is the point)

	-Mike
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