20:24 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Websites Meeting 20:25 < ricky> ivazquez, ianweller_afk, mizmo, anybody I missed: ping 20:25 < ivazquez> Pong. 20:26 < ricky> Ooookaay then. Let's get started. 20:26 < ricky> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Tasks 20:26 < ricky> quaid: ping - any updates on CMS searching? 20:26 < mizmo> ricky, pong 20:26 < ricky> Woo 20:27 < ricky> Guess not - docs is pretty busy with release stuff around now 20:27 < ricky> mizmo: Do you know what the status of myfedora is? 20:27 < mizmo> ricky, ive been working on css bugs today 20:27 < mizmo> ricky, my deadline for that is the 12th 20:28 < ricky> Ah, cool. 20:28 < mizmo> beyond that, im not sure. we'll definitely be needing to do design & planning for beyond but i dont know when J5 / lmacken want to start on that 20:28 < mizmo> i dont think we've gotten a lot of user feedback unfortunately :( 20:28 < ricky> Any idea roughly when it'll be ready to deploy? 20:29 -!- ke4qqq_ [n=ke4qqq@xxxxxxxxx] has quit "Lost terminal" 20:29 < mizmo> ricky, nope :( 20:29 < mizmo> it's on public test 16 now 20:29 < ricky> All right - no problem 20:29 < mizmo> but thats all i know 20:29 < mizmo> :( sorry! 20:30 < ricky> If you need any help with CSS, etc. feel free to poke websites-list 20:31 < ricky> So relase update: we're hopefully string-frozen for F10. I'll try to get the tagline from marketing-list in as well today 20:31 < ricky> So the big thing to discuss: the new get-fedora 20:31 < mizmo> sure 20:32 < ricky> Here's what we have for now: http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/get-fedora 20:32 < ricky> We probably need some icons for the buttons 20:32 < ricky> Does that seem pretty clear/simple for users? 20:32 < rsc> there are scrolling bars inside of the page...that's worse. 20:33 < rsc> to me the new page is more confusing ;) 20:33 < ricky> rsc: Blech - can you send a screenshot? I'll take a look in a bit 20:33 < mizmo> ricky, i think we should hide the other download options, 20:33 < ricky> Which other options? 20:33 < mizmo> ricky, like, hide the div with javascript, make the 'let me look around' the link to trigger it visible 20:33 < mizmo> ricky, at the bottom of the page 20:34 -!- tw2113 [n=tw2113@fedora/tw2113] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:34 < ricky> tw2113: Hey 20:34 < mizmo> altho 20:34 < mizmo> maybe that section could be deemphasized in a better way 20:34 < tw2113> websites mtg right? 20:34 < ricky> Yup 20:34 < mizmo> like maybe take the light tan bg off of the upgrade section, and stick it on the other download options section 20:34 < tw2113> MichaelBeckwith 20:34 < mizmo> greyish backgrounds tend to de-emphasize 20:34 < rsc> ricky: http://labs.linuxnetz.de/get-fedora.png 20:35 -!- mether [n=sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:35 < ricky> rsc: Thanks - I'll probably ask you to test another version a bit later 20:35 < mizmo> that's really wonky rsc 20:35 < mizmo> id put overflow: hidden 20:35 < mizmo> to stop it 20:35 < mizmo> rsc, what screen resolution do you have? 20:35 < ricky> Yeah, that should fix it 20:35 < rsc> mizmo: 1024x768 but the wide screen variant of that. 20:36 * ricky should send out a call for browser testing 20:36 < rsc> mizmo: so you definately missed testing with usual 1024x768 20:36 < ricky> rsc: Does http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/get-fedora work? 20:36 < mizmo> rsc, weird, i did the original mockup on a 1024x768 laptop 20:36 < ricky> rsc: we haven't done much browser testing yet :-/ Been concentrating on content mostly 20:37 < mizmo> rsc, does http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/get-fedora/ scroll too? 20:37 < rsc> ricky: better, yes. 20:37 < ricky> mizmo: I might have changed some paddings, etc. to cause the problem 20:37 < mizmo> could be 20:37 < rsc> mizmo: no, but seems to have a fixed width, while ricky has not. 20:37 < ricky> I tried to make it take up more of the screen 20:37 < mizmo> do a diff between the two and maybe the problem will be easier to find im thinking 20:37 < mizmo> ah okay 20:38 < ricky> I think you overflow: hidden; fix worked 20:38 < rsc> I'm still not in favor about having the live stuff as first option there. 20:38 < ricky> But yeah, for anybody that's reading, test in as many browsers as you can get access to 20:38 < mizmo> yeh its good not to waste space 20:38 -!- mether [n=sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:39 < ricky> mether: Hey, if you're around, we're looking at the new get-fedora (http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/get-fedora) - you always have a lot of suggestions :-) 20:39 < ricky> mizmo: Do you think the KDE page should have a DVD link as well? 20:40 < ricky> A KDE user could upgrade from the DVD, but I'm not sure if it belongs on that page. 20:40 < ricky> Also, do you think we need to be clearer about what combos don't exist? 20:40 < ivazquez> I think it should. We don't want to give KDE users a reason to complain. 20:40 < ricky> For example, there are no Live CDs for PPC 20:40 < mizmo> ricky, yeh i think the dvd link would be fine for kde 20:40 < ricky> All right, I'll add that back - thankfully the strings will be the same. 20:40 < tw2113> remove some clicks for the weird KDE fans 20:40 < mizmo> ricky, just show the dvd for ppc and have a statement at the bottom saying so live cd is available 20:41 < ricky> if anybody has any string changes, please give them now - I can hopefully sneak in one or two more 20:41 < ivazquez> "Upgrade to Fedora 10 from an Older Fedora" should probably be "Upgrade to Fedora 10 from an older version". 20:42 < mether> ricky: i was suggesting adding the logos to the blue boxes on the side earlier 20:42 * ricky makes some of these changes to see how it looks 20:42 < mether> ricky: example, where it says "KDE fans, go here", add the gears logo to the left 20:43 < ivazquez> Why doesn't the KDE page mention KDE at all? 20:43 < ivazquez> In fact, it talks about GNOME. 20:43 < ricky> ivazquez: Oops, I missed that 20:43 < mether> ricky: and instead of the fedora logo on the cd cover, we can have the kde logo there instead 20:44 < mether> also, it isnt clear from the page that live cd's are installable 20:44 < mizmo> "It's everything you need to try out Fedora—and if you like it, install it right from the desktop! " ? mether ^^ 20:44 < ricky> Here's a version implementing some of the changes suggested: http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/get-fedora 20:44 < ivazquez> And some more bike-shedding: "4.3GB, ISO format, 1 DVD disc image for PowerPC-compatible PCs"... "PCs" should probably be "computers". 20:45 < mether> mizmo: i dont see that sentence in the get kde page i am looking at 20:45 < mizmo> mether, ah okay 20:45 < mizmo> it should probably be copied over from the front page 20:45 < mizmo> ivazquez, +1 20:45 < ricky> Changed 20:46 < ricky> Oh, I missed the change on the KDE one. Adding 20:46 < mether> "get a completely free copy of fedora media" would be better, i think 20:46 < mizmo> ricky, on the kde page i'd change it to Get Fedora 10 KDE Desktop Edition Now 20:46 < mizmo> the title 20:46 < ricky> Sure 20:46 < mether> is there a particular reason to highlight ppc so much 20:47 < mether> hardly anybody uses it 20:47 < ivazquez> Marketing. 20:47 < ivazquez> "Ubuntu has a PPC version! Go try it!" 20:47 < ivazquez> Oh look! A huge button showing ours. 20:47 < ricky> Heh 20:48 < mether> i dont know. marketing should be about giving people, what they want instead of promoting obscure arch's i think 20:48 < ivazquez> Having said that, I am amenable to putting the KDE button over the PPC one. 20:48 < ricky> I don't think it's that prominent 20:48 < ricky> We want PPC users to not have to navigate through http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/get-fedora 20:48 < ivazquez> Sometimes people want a PPC version. 20:49 < ricky> Er, http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/get-fedora-all 20:49 < mizmo> mether, i think the target there is mac os x users who want to try this linux thing 20:49 < mizmo> mether, who might be frightened by the all options screen 20:49 < ivazquez> There's still a scary amount of PPC Macs out there. 20:49 < mether> mizmo: ah ok. if we have a good reason, then sure 20:49 < ricky> OK, so http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/ should be updated with everything we mentioned so far (apart from adding images) 20:50 < ricky> mizmo: Does the gray box work, or should it be lighter? 20:50 < mizmo> ooh i think it worked 20:50 < ricky> Cool 20:50 < mizmo> id give it a bit more padding though on the top 20:50 < mether> so should we say, "Classic Macintosh users, upgrade to Fedora" or some thing like that 20:50 < mizmo> er margin 20:50 < ivazquez> Did we decide on the "Older Fedora" wording? 20:50 < mizmo> mether, 'classic' makes people think os 9 20:50 < ivazquez> "Classic Mac" refers to 68k. 20:51 < mether> how do we say ppc macs in mac parlance 20:51 < ricky> Oh yeah - "Older Fedora" or "Older Version" ? 20:51 < ivazquez> NewWorld Macs 20:51 < mether> i am sure they dont use "ppc" 20:51 * ricky thinks "Older Version" might make more sense 20:51 < mizmo> mether, do you have a better suggestion? 20:51 < ivazquez> And fix the capitalization please :P 20:51 < mizmo> mether, it's a tricky one 20:51 < mizmo> mether, because you dont want to drive intel mac users to download the wrong thing 20:51 < mether> mizmo: "power pc"? 20:52 < mizmo> mether, i agree tho tha tppc is kind of jargony 20:52 < mizmo> mether, yeh that's probably better 20:52 < wwoods> "Macintosh G3/G4/G5"? 20:52 < ricky> ivazquez: The capitalization where? 20:52 < mether> i am not sure of the terminology familiar to mac users 20:52 < ivazquez> NewWorld is the appropriate term. 20:52 < mether> never used one 20:52 < mizmo> wwoods, i have an old mac i dont use under my desk. i have no idea which G it is :) 20:52 < ivazquez> "Older Version". Drop the caps. 20:52 < ricky> Ah, OK 20:52 < wwoods> yeah, but it's G-something 20:52 < mizmo> - i think kde should be over ppc in the banners on the right 20:53 < ivazquez> G3 and newer PPC Macs are called "NewWorld". 20:53 < mizmo> - i think we should rename ppc to "power pc" 20:53 < wwoods> ivazquez: nobody calls them that 20:53 < ricky> ivazquez: Hmm, what about headings like: "Get Fedora 10 KDE Desktop Edition Now " ? 20:53 < mizmo> - i think the grey area - more options - should have a bit more margin on the top 20:53 < ivazquez> Mac techs call them that. 20:53 < ricky> mizmo: sorry, lost track of that - doing now 20:53 < mizmo> ricky, it's all good, i figured its prolly hard to find them all embedded in the chat so i tried the - trick hehe 20:54 < ricky> mizmo: How does it look now? 20:54 < wwoods> ivazquez: mac techs who dealt with OldWorld macs, maybe. none of the mac techs I've talked to have ever uttered that word. 20:54 < mizmo> ricky, the margin is perfect now :) 20:54 < ricky> Cool 20:54 < wwoods> nor any mac users. 20:54 -!- knurd is now known as knurd_afk 20:54 < mether> also instead of saying, "desktop live cd or install dvd", can we say "Desktop Live CD or Regular DVD". I am trying to avoid giving the impression that live cd is not installable" 20:54 < wwoods> I'll agree that it's the most accurate and precise term, but it's not common parlance at all. 20:54 < mether> i saw a few users still confused about that in fedoraforum 20:55 < ricky> Does that sound good to everybody? ^ 20:55 < mether> for upgrade, is preupgrade a better recommendation than the dvd image. wwoods? 20:55 < wwoods> ooh. um. 20:56 < wwoods> No. DVD is more reliable 20:56 < mether> it screwed up at times, still in my testing 20:56 < ricky> Should it be "Regular DVD," or something else? 20:56 < ricky> "Regular" sounds a bit weird to me 20:56 < wwoods> there are some (uncommon but known) cases where preupgrade doesn't work yet 20:56 < wwoods> e.g. /boot on dmraid, ppc, /boot <150MB 20:57 < wwoods> preupgrade may be the recommended method for F11 though. 20:57 < mether> can we still highlight preupgrade somewhere in there? 20:57 < ricky> Cool 20:58 < ricky> mether: We'll have to consider how recommended/supported preupgrade is and how late we are in the websites process. 20:58 < mether> hyperlink to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Preupgrade 20:58 < mizmo> mether, im not sure we really want the target users of this page using preupgrade right now 20:58 < mizmo> mether, i would wait until it's more stable 20:58 < mether> yes, we can post pone changes to Fedora 11 20:58 < ricky> Adding a single line might not hurt, but I'm not sure if users would get confused at the additional option 20:58 -!- ubertibbs [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 20:58 < mether> if some of the changes are late 20:58 < wwoods> yeah I really don't think preupgrade is something to talk about for this audience yet 20:58 < mizmo> mether, i agree that having 'install' in the 'install dvd' header is probably causing some of the live cd confusion 20:59 < ricky> All right, let's leave preupgrade for next release. 20:59 < mizmo> mether, im trying to think of a better way to pose it 20:59 < wwoods> furthermore, by the time it *is* the right thing, we should have PackageKit popping up a dialog for it 20:59 -!- drago01 [n=linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:59 < wwoods> so you probably won't have to worry about it. 20:59 < mizmo> 'Desktop Live CD' & 'DVD Media' ? 20:59 < mizmo> 'Full DVD' ? 20:59 * ricky would like to s/Live CD/Installable Live CD/, but that would make everything too long :-/ 20:59 < ricky> Full DVD sounds good 20:59 < mether> mizmo: its not a full dvd 20:59 < mether> mizmo: its a subset of packages 20:59 < mizmo> mether, it's full-er lol 20:59 < mizmo> how about... 21:00 < mether> well yes, but that sounds awkard 21:00 < mizmo> nah 21:00 < mizmo> hmm 21:00 < ricky> Super-size, Large, and Medium (no small) 21:00 < mizmo> ricky, is there no space for 'Installable Desktop Live CD' ? 21:00 < ricky> mizmo: We can see how it looks in a second. 21:01 < ricky> Hm. 21:01 -!- J5__ [n=quintice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 21:01 < ricky> How can we differentiate between Installable GNOME Live CD and Installable KDE Live CD? 21:01 < ricky> (Without making it that long) 21:01 -!- J5__ [n=quintice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:01 < mizmo> ricky, hm where is that text 21:02 < mizmo> oh 21:02 < mizmo> its the banner text 21:02 < ricky> The sidebar buttons 21:02 < ricky> Yeah 21:02 < mizmo> okay a couple ideas: 21:02 < mizmo> for 21:02 < mizmo> 'Get Fedora 10 Desktop Edition Now Live Media Enabled!' 21:02 < ricky> On the download page itself, I can replace "Live Media Enabled!" with "Installable Live CD" 21:02 < mizmo> on the front page 21:02 < mizmo> i would suggest, next to 'Live Media Enabled!' also do 'Installable!' 21:03 < mizmo> oh oh 21:03 < mizmo> thats even better ricky! 21:03 < ricky> Cool 21:03 < mizmo> with the banner 21:03 < mizmo> i wouldn't do a banner for the main get fedora 21:03 < mizmo> what i would do 21:03 < mizmo> is a breadcrumb trail like bar at the top 21:03 < mizmo> of the ppc and kde pages 21:03 < mizmo> 'Back to the main 'Get Fedora' page' 21:03 < mizmo> something like that 21:03 < ricky> Hm. 21:05 < ricky> Like this? http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/get-fedora 21:06 < ricky> I'll probably make the font smaller, etc. - just getting the text in there 21:06 < mizmo> ricky, i'd do it above the 'fedora for you' 21:06 < ricky> OK 21:06 < mizmo> ricky, and put a 1 px light grey border along the bottom 21:07 < ivazquez> Maybe just a little "<< Back"? 21:07 < ivazquez> Let me find a fancy arrow :P 21:07 < ivazquez> ⇐, U+21D0 21:08 -!- sereinity [n=sereinit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:08 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:08 < ricky> Here's how it looks now: http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/get-fedora-kde 21:10 < ricky> Adjusted it a bit 21:10 < pjones> ivazquez: how's that read? "un-yields"? 21:10 < ricky> Is that clearer, or should we try the arrow? 21:11 < ricky> Actually... 21:11 < ivazquez> Well, it does unyield the page transition :P 21:12 * ricky added << 21:12 < mether> mizmo: do we have a Fedora 10 banner for the front page? 21:13 < ricky> Also, any thoughts about the tagline? 21:13 * ricky is ready to go with: "Fedora 10 - Fire it up." 21:13 < tw2113> no complaint here 21:13 < mether> can we connect it to Solar theme somehow? 21:13 < ricky> Heh. I looks kind of funny with the period. 21:13 < mizmo> mether, not yet 21:14 < mizmo> ricky, i like it 21:14 * ricky agonizes too much about these things... 21:14 < mizmo> ricky, theres a better character for << 21:14 < ricky> But period or no period? ;-) 21:14 < mizmo> attention to detail is a good thing :) 21:14 < mizmo> no period. 21:14 < ricky> Cool 21:15 < ricky> Hopefully it's a good string for translators to work with 21:15 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has quit Remote closed the connection 21:15 < ricky> All right, so how's everything looking now? 21:15 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:15 < ricky> Check the docs links, wording, the way stuff is linked, etc. 21:16 * ricky wonders if the hover effect for the light buttons looks too much like the dark buttons 21:16 < mizmo> ricky, can u use this » 21:16 < ricky> Sure - /me looks that up 21:16 * ivazquez is not a fan of overloading guillemots for that 21:17 < mizmo> ricky, kde is still below ppc on the front page 21:17 < mizmo> ivazquez, oh i didnt realize they were used for anything but arrows 21:17 < mizmo> (*--*) 21:17 < mizmo> u could try this → 21:17 < ivazquez> They're quotation marks in several languages. 21:18 -!- ezq [n=ezq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:18 < mizmo> some ideas, hehe →↠⇨⇒⍈➔➜➞➩➪➤ 21:18 < ricky> Haha 21:19 < ricky> The arrow looks pretty nice (check now) 21:19 < mizmo> depending on your irc client's font, that may or may not look crazy lol 21:19 < ivazquez> I like ↫, but the other one is flipped the wrong way: ↬ 21:19 < mizmo> _1 shipit 21:19 < mizmo> er 21:19 < mizmo> +1 shipit 21:19 < mizmo> ricky, ah i just noticed on the kde page, there isn't enough of a margin between the buttons on the right and the text in the main body 21:20 < ricky> What resolution are you looking with? 21:20 < ricky> We may have to resize those columns when we get icons for the butons 21:20 -!- fraggle_laptop [n=fraggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Remote closed the connection 21:20 < ricky> Also, do the download boxes at http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/get-fedora-kde look a little spacey? 21:21 < ricky> The alternating gray made it look more natural before 21:21 < mizmo> ricky, it's 1450 x 960 i think 21:21 < mizmo> ricky, i think if you set a margin of say 20 px it'll be good no matter what resolution 21:21 < ricky> All right - I'll try using non-percent units 21:22 < mizmo> ricky, spacey? 21:22 < mizmo> ricky, i dont see any issues with them 21:22 -!- bpepple|lt [n=bpepple|@adsl-69-214-168-154.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has quit "Ex-Chat" 21:22 < mizmo> but maybe im not looking at the right thing? im looking at the blue download buttons? 21:22 < ricky> I mean the entire section with all the download info 21:23 < ricky> It's all indented a bit, so there's space around each section 21:23 < mizmo> ricky, it looks okay to me 21:23 < ricky> All right, it's just me, then 21:23 < mizmo> i did notice it the first time i hit the kde page, 21:24 < mizmo> but it doesn't bother me 21:24 -!- cassmodiah [n=cass@fedora/cassmodiah] has quit Remote closed the connection 21:25 < ricky> All right, is the text thing fixed for you now? 21:26 < mizmo> ricky, it looks better, but could stand to use a bit more padding 21:26 < mizmo> maybe 10 px more, something like that 21:27 < ricky> How about now? 21:27 < mizmo> perfect :) 21:27 < mizmo> i think maybe the back to main fedora page 21:27 < mizmo> should be blue so it stands out more 21:27 < mizmo> maybe a bit bigger font 21:27 < ricky> All right 21:28 -!- ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller 21:28 * ianweller rolls in 21:28 < ricky> How about now? 21:28 < mizmo> ricky, the 'visited' link color is really light so it's still hard to read 21:29 < mizmo> it's like a light periwinkle 21:29 -!- loupgaro1blond [n=loupgaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:30 < ianweller> what are we looking at? 21:30 < ricky> http://sphe.res.cmu.edu/en/get-fedora-kde 21:30 < mizmo> ricky, it might be cool to float this to the left of the KDE explanation text: http://wiki.kde.org/img/wiki_up/klogo-small-crystal-128.png 21:31 < ricky> Is that any better? 21:31 * ianweller yells at networkmanager 21:31 < mizmo> ricky, it is 21:31 < mizmo> it's just dark enough its easier to read now 21:32 < ricky> mizmo: any idea how much I should size it down (pixels)? 21:32 * ricky isn't great at estimating this stuff 21:32 < mizmo> ricky, maybe 90x90? 21:32 < ricky> All right 21:33 < mizmo> i think it'd be good to make the first mention of the text 'K Desktop Environment (KDE)' in that paragraph link to kde.org 21:33 < mizmo> so people can take a look at it see if its what they want 21:33 -!- sdziallas [n=sebastia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 21:33 < ricky> Good idea 21:34 < ricky> mizmo: Same with GNOME or not? 21:35 < mizmo> ricky, well, with the GNOME one we don't really mention it as being GNOME 21:35 < mizmo> and we don't have an explanatory paragraph 21:35 < mizmo> i think it's okay to leave it out from that page 21:35 < mizmo> maybe on the KDE page 21:35 < ricky> All right 21:35 < mizmo> "The K Desktop Environment (KDE) is an alternative desktop environment for Fedora. (The default desktop environment is GNOME.)" 21:35 < mizmo> and make GNOME a link to gnome.org 21:36 < mizmo> but that might just be too confusing to be useful 21:37 < ricky> Yeah, I think it's fine now 21:39 -!- fab [n=bellet@xxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "Leaving" 21:39 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 21:42 -!- loupgaroublond [n=loupgaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 21:42 -!- loupgaro1blond is now known as loupgaroublond 21:42 < ricky> Looks like it's still a bit big 21:43 < mizmo> really? 21:44 < mizmo> im not suggesting the 90x90 for the button, but for the paragraph 21:44 < mizmo> (does that make more sense?) 21:44 < ricky> Oh, for what paragraph? 21:44 < mizmo> the kde explanation paragraph 21:44 < ricky> Ohhhhh 21:44 < mizmo> like, have it float to the left or right of the paragraph, and have it link to kde.org 21:44 < mizmo> id do maybe a 24x24 icon for the banner button 21:44 < ricky> Gotcha 21:45 < mizmo> sorry for the confusion :) 21:45 -!- lfoppiano [n=lfoppian@fedora/lfoppiano] has quit "Ex-Chat" 21:46 < ricky> No worries 21:46 < ricky> Could it still be a bit large? 21:46 < ianweller> ricky: have you been testing this with browsershots.org? :) 21:47 < mizmo> ricky, yeh, maybe 60x60 would be better 21:47 < ricky> Nope, not yet - browser testing's going to be "fun" 21:47 < mizmo> ricky, i think put a clear: both on the paragraphs below it will stop them from cascading 21:48 -!- greenlion [n=greenlio@fedora/greenlion] has quit "Ухожу" 21:49 < ricky> How is that? 21:53 -!- sharkcz [n=dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "Ukončuji" 21:54 -!- petreu [n=peter@fedora/petreu] has quit "( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )" 21:55 < ricky> Heh, looks like we went waaay over time today :-) 21:55 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule 21:55 < ricky> Thanks for coming, everybody - we can keep it going in #fedora-websites
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