On Wednesday 20 August 2008 12:36:23 Máirín Duffy wrote: > Asgeir Frimannsson wrote: > > I was more thinking of this from a development point-of-view. The tabs do > > eat space that could be better used for the main functionality of the > > application. I'm thinking of this in terms of the L10N infrastructure > > specifically, where we do need as much horizontal space as possible for > > the main application (e.g. translation statistics, transifex submission, > > online translation)... I would limit the overall 'theme' to a smaller and > > less intrusive 'frame' of the application, e.g. how Google separates its' > > services (horizontal <20px bar on top). I do really like the overall > > theme of the page though :) > > Seriously? Out of a 1024 pixel wide screen, that sidebar takes up less > than 200 px. That gives the main content area 80% of the horizontal > width of the screen which seems a quite reasonable ratio to me. You do > need SOME whitespace on the screen. Cramming information into every last > bit of space is not as efficient as it might seem at first glance, > especially in a complicated application interface where you risk > overwhelming the user with data. Overwhelming the user is my main concern, yes. Using the extra 200 px for an application-based menu/toolbox/help-view, rather than cramming it in the remaining 80%, would be much more favorable than 'wasting' it on a sub-optimal global navigation. > You wouldn't worry more about having 8 tabs horizontally across the top, > their German translations making the last two or three tabs scroll > horizotnally or jump down the next row? I don't think i18n is really a > good justification for your stance here. That depends on how dominant this menu is on the page. To me, a global navigation on a site like fpo should be clearly visible, but also easily 'ignorable' when working within a specific application. For example, google.com has 12 Items in its' global menu (7 navigation, 5 other) when logged in, and is localised in many languages, including German (which naturally takes more space). If the target is a site where the global navigation is a dominant element of the page, then yes, I see your point, and having these tabs horizontally wouldn't be feasible. But if the target is a Fedora themed 'frame' for applications to inherit, with a non-intrusive global navigation, then I think the proposal is a bit off target, and a smaller horizontal global navigation would be a better option. That's my 2 cents. cheers, asgeir -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
