Hi, I have a minor correction. I was just reading FWN 133, and in this bit: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue133#Java.2C_So_Many_Free_Choices it says: "After all this talk about the many Free choices available in Java Kevin Koffler wondered whether some of the other virtual machines, such as Christian Thalinger's cacao or Gary Benson's shark, both of which attempt to re-implement Hotspot in more portable ways, would be receiving attention." My correction is basically that Shark isn't a virtual machine. I guess you know that in Java you have the virtual machine (that runs the code) and the class library (a block of pre-existing code that applications can use). OpenJDK comprises (essentially) a virtual machine (HotSpot) and a class library. Cacao is a virtual machine that can use the OpenJDK's class library but that runs on more architectures than HotSpot, so one way of supporting stuff that HotSpot doesn't is to use Cacao with OpenJDK's class library. At first we didn't know how the Cacao stuff would work, so we (ie the open source Java team at Red Hat) started working on a different approach, one that makes HotSpot able to compile and run on any Linux system. The result of this was called "zero", which is a non-cpu- specific port of HotSpot. (It's called zero because of the names of the directories in which it appears; if you look in an OpenJDK tarball you'll see: openjdk/hotspot/src/cpu/amd64 openjdk/hotspot/src/cpu/i486 openjdk/hotspot/src/cpu/sparc Zero appears as openjdk/hotspot/src/cpu/zero). The problem with zero is that it's only an interpreter, so it's pretty slow. What Shark is is a JIT for zero. But neither zero nor Shark are virtual machines; the virtual machine you'll be running is still HotSpot. Hope that makes sense! Cheers, Gary -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list