Am Do 12.Juni 2008 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > (First of all, sorry for the lack of threading and line breaks in the > previous reply, I was not at home and my ISP's webmail system is > braindead.) > > On Thursday 12 June 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > * But what desktop? The problem is that there are 2 (even 3 counting > > > your XFCE spin, but unfortunately XFCE is currently not on the DVD > > > either). > > > > As the Xfce spin maintainer, I don't really want my spin to be listed > > very prominently at all. I dare say the Xfce maintainers in Fedora would > > likely agree with me on that. > > That's OK, but as one of the KDE maintainers, I _do_ want a spin containing > KDE to be listed prominently (also considering the market share > statistics). If live CDs are really the way to go (which I'm not sure of > for reasons already described elsewhere in this thread), then the > GNOME-based Desktop Live and the KDE Live spin should be listed equally, > not the GNOME one in a huge link and the KDE one relegated to a hidden > secondary download page. Otherwise, the default should be the DVD (and KDE > should also be made more prominent in the installer, but that's a separate > issue). +1 > In case you really want the spin maintainer's opinion: I CCed the KDE Live > CD maintainer on this mail. Sebastian, it would be great to have your > position too. (Thanks for the CC) > > Choice is fine and dandy but it is utterly confusing for the > > non-technical end users. > > That's where we disagree. I think presenting them both options the same way > is the way to let them pick their own preference, we should not try to > think for them. +1 Making things easy is good for the first time user. Making things _too easy_ (eg. don't give them the necessary information to choose the right thing) is bad for them (and also for all other users). > > Anybody who even knows what a desktop environment can very well click on > > the additional options. > > Here you're assuming that they even notice that the additional options > exist at all! If you have a big "Download Fedora now" link with the GNOME > live CD and some tiny fine print linking to get-fedora, what do you think > people will click on? +1 On the current mockup there also seems to be no difference between "Download Fedora" and "Get Fedora" (on the left side). So people might don't even find a way to download the DVD or a live image for x86_64 or ppc. IMHO a "one-click-download" solution isn't a good idea here and make things more complicated. > > I do agree with you that additional hints that the desktop spin holds > > GNOME would be a good thing. > > At least there's one thing we agree on. ;-) +1 BTW: The "Get Fedora" page (http://jprada.fedorapeople.org/out/en/get-fedora) is much better now because it contains some explanations. Sebastian
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