We discussed whether to track fedora.org with Omniture a couple of years
ago and elected not to do so at the time. If there is interest in the
Fedora website management community to explore the differences between
tracking using a tool like awstats versus Omniture then I would suggest
that we start up a thread on the topic. We can explain how our tracking
system works and the reports that would be available to the community.
I would also be interested in a discussion on the topic of what it means
to have "open services" versus "proprietary services" as it relates to
"open source" versus "proprietary source". I see this as a challenge for
us at Red Hat in the growing market of SOAS and hosted systems and for
the open source community.
Jesse
Max Spevack wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Not to be negative but Fedora has avoided using proprietary software
or services as much as possible and quite successfully. It is bad
enough that trend is not kept as much within Red Hat but why
proliferate it within Fedora too?
Hi Rahul,
Let me explain my reasons for beginning this thread in the manner in
which I did:
Things I am *not* doing:
* I am not suggesting that Fedora should use any proprietary software.
* I am not *mandating* that anyone in Fedora do anything.
Things I *am* doing:
* I am responding to a query from Red Hat's web team about how they
can gain some visibility to Fedora traffic in their current system for
all other Red Hat properties.
* I am directing the person in charge of that (Jesse) to the Fedora
Websites team so that he can state his case (if he so chooses) and
have a conversation with the community.
---
My goal is always to allow the community *doers* to interact directly
with the Red Hat *doers* without folks like me having to be the middle
man. So when someone comes to me with a request that really belongs in
the hands of the Fedora Websites leaders, I believe that it is my job
to bring those two parties together, and try to summarize the topic of
discussion.
I do this while trying not to offer my own opinion, so as not to sway
the discussion one way or another.
Ultimately, from the Fedora point of view, this is a question of
"adding a little JavaScript to a few pages".
The pros of this:
* It is helpful to our friends in the larger Red Hat world, and we
would be doing them a favor.
The cons of this:
* Our friends in the larger Red Hat world need that JavaScript in
order to operate with a larger analysis system that Fedora would never
choose to implement themselves due to philosophical reasons.
It is up to the leaders within the Fedora Websites team to consider
this and make a decision. They can reject it outright. They can ask
for more information. They can debate. Whatever.
But I assume that you would rather have the opportunity to make a
decision like this directly, rather than have it be decided (in either
direction) for you.
--Max
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