Máirín Duffy wrote: > I wanted the middle area to take up as much width as possible because > I would like this template at some point to maybe be usable for the > wiki. The wiki needs a great amount of horizontal space. I also > wanted to leave the option open for a right-side banner/control bar. Aha, I was actually wondering if this would also be used on the wiki- if we add a right banner/bar, then this is no longer an issue. > The text color was changed to grey to give a slightly less-jarring, > lower contrast between the white background which is supposed to me > more readable and I think looks a little slicker. I see where you're coming from with this- perhaps we can use a slightly darker grey? > The text style has been made much smaller which makes it more > difficult to read, and the spacing is off so some of the elements on > the page feel like they don't have enough breathing space. Strange.. I actually intended to make the text slightly larger (as it displays on my computer)- may I ask what browser/resolution, etc. you're viewing it in? > The image banner is not scalable, it would not look as good if it > was, and honestly scaling a banner like that is not useful; it > doesn't add any value if it's wider because you'd just be adding > empty spcae, not content if you expanded it. I didn't want the image itself to scale- I just didn't want to allow it to fix the width of the sidebar. Basically, when the user adjusts the font size, I would like for the width of the sidebar to change to accommodate. > The moz border radius is extremely light though, requires less hacky > html, and takes up no space in images. I definitely prefer it over images, but I really like the rounded corner effect and would just like to have it in non-gecko browsers too (it looks out of place in other browsers). > I just have one extra div container on the body to implement it. I > like the shadows being very thin, the content area takes the stage > more then, there's more space to work with in the main content area, > and I think the shadows are a nice element. I wanted them to make the > content area pop out more. It's a style that is popular on a lot of > websites these days. As it currently, stands, I feel that the shadow image itself pops up a as opposed the the content. I don't think emphasizing the content is purely about the area that it takes up- when you have some space around the content, it's emphasized as well, in a different way. > This is a pretty standard web page layout style. The space underneath > the navigation bar can eventually be used for banners and little > info feeds (eg you could have a little widget that displays the > latest few Fedora News items, etc.) Those additions would definitely take away from the impact of the problem. On the front page, though, I'd probably want news to take a more central role than a sidebar widget. > The width of the banner and navigation bar looks too wide in your > page layout because the main content area only takes up 80%. There's > 20% wasted space + the wasted space under the navigation you're > referring to. Yes, but that 20% doesn't *look* wasted- I think it serves to emphasize/contrast the content instead. In http://people.redhat.com/duffy/fedora/web/static-page-2.html, that space appears right in the middle, between the sidebar and the content, making it very obvious to the reader. As I said earlier, none of this will be an issue once we add right banner/control bar (although we still might have to reduce the size of the left bar to make more room for it). In this case, maybe I should have used a unit other than %, displaying the middle based on the text, not the size of the viewport. > The links on that page then point to the anchors for the specific > things (eg clicking on bittorrent brings up the bittorrent anchor on > the page.) Ah, perfect, then. Based on some of your comments, I've made some changes (and a copy with a wider page, if that looks better): * http://fedora.riczho.dyndns.org/static/index.html * http://fedora.riczho.dyndns.org/static/index.wide.html To illustrate what I was saying with the space under the sidebar, I've copied the paragraph a few times to make a longer page. If you have any quick comments, etc. I should be listening in #fedora-websites/#fedora-admin/checking my e-mail obsessively as always. Thanks for the comments, Ricky
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