Re: Does Red Hat have any plans for Win 10 EOL ?

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On 12/1/25 21:55, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 11:58 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 12/1/25 03:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 02:48 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 10:57 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
If you are asking about RHEL Workstation as a Windows Desktop
replacement, I don’t believe that’s part of Red Hat’s strategic
objective. Maybe for large engineering or animation workshops but not
as a general computing devices.

That isn’t to say you can’t use it that way, I’ve done it for a large
part of my career as a desktop Linux sysadmin. But your question is
about whether IBM or Red Hat would promote it as a Windows
replacement.

I suggest Fedora Workstation instead of Windows.
The thing that gets brought up to me if I ever mention Linux to a
friend is gaming.  He's into all that World of Warcraft immersive
fantasy and 3D shoot-em-up stuff.  High-resolution graphics, high frame
rate, probably only released for Windows stuff.
Just to stick my oar in, the use of Linux for gaming has evolved
enormously in the past couple of years, mainly owing to Valve's putting
real money and effort into the Proton compatibility shim (built on
Wine) in order to support the Steam Deck handheld, which is based on
Arch Linux. I'm retired and took up gaming a few years ago. I used to
jump through hoops to get Windows working in a VM with PCI passthrough
so the guest could have direct access to the GPU. I haven't had to do
that in at least two years. Not everything works, particularly games
with anti-cheat systems implemented as kernel-level blobs, but I don;t
care about those gamnes anyway so no loss.

A look at https://www.protondb.com/https://www.protondb.com/ gives an
idea of the current state of play (pun intended). Interestingly, the
games that do work sometimes have better performance on Proton than on
Windows. BTW, Steam is about to release SteamOS for competitor's
handhelds, Lenovo being the first.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
I have had a look at games in Fedora under steam, and what I have found
is games that are tagged as Windows don't run under linux and games
tagged as Linux don't run under Windows.
I have also had issues with games tagged as Linux, not running in Fedora
because at the time the nvidia driver version from rpmfusion was too old
for what the game wanted, and I don't know of a Linux equivalent of
"Nvidia Experience" that allows the downloading and installation of
current nvidia drivers and also provides optimisation capabilities of
supported games.
I can only say that you must be doing it wrong. Have you actually
installed Steam on Fedora? See:

    $ rpm -qi steam-1.0.0.82-1.fc41.i686
    Name        : steam
    Version     : 1.0.0.82
    Release     : 1.fc41
    Architecture: i686
    Install Date: Fri 29 Nov 2024 22:14:24 GMT
    Group       : Unspecified
    Size        : 19552823
    License     : Steam License Agreement and MIT
    Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Sat 16 Nov 2024 10:52:08 GMT, Key ID
    6a2af96194843c65
    Source RPM  : steam-1.0.0.82-1.fc41.src.rpm
    Build Date  : Sun 10 Nov 2024 14:23:42 GMT
    Build Host  : buildvm-03.online.rpmfusion.net
    Packager    : RPM Fusion
    Vendor      : RPM Fusion
    URL         : http://www.steampowered.com/
    Summary     : Installer for the Steam software distribution service
    Description :
    Steam is a software distribution service with an online store,
    automated installation, automatic updates, achievements, SteamCloud
    synchronized savegame and screenshot functionality, and many social
    features.
I've played multiple AAA games under both Steam and other systems
(Lutris, Hero Games Launcher, etc.) and although there is the
occasional tweak required to the Proton settings they have generally
worked extremely well. I now have an AMD GPU but when I had an Nvidia
the experience was essentially the same. I can even play remotely on my
TV using the Sunshine server on Fedora and the Moonlight app on the TV
box.
I have steam installed under Windows, Fedora and Ubuntu, but looking at the Fedora install things may have now changed from what used to happen. Having configured steam to accept the beta services it has installed the proton system which seems to provide better support for Windows processes. A lot of the issues I used to have of games tagged in steam as being Windows wouldn't even install because of operating system checks they were doing, but the proton implementation seems to have removed a lot of that, but I am still having issues with one of the Windows games I play not being usable under linux, but this is because of the anti-cheat system in the game which is also documented as potentially not working under linux. All the solutions I have read for the error I'm getting from the anti-cheat system don't work under linux and what they are indicating as to what is installed doesn't match the install that happened under linux, a second game that I run under Windows seems to install and run in linux without any issues.

regards,
Steve


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