On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 11:58 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 12/1/25 03:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 02:48 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > > > On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 10:57 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > > > If you are asking about RHEL Workstation as a Windows Desktop > > > > replacement, I don’t believe that’s part of Red Hat’s strategic > > > > objective. Maybe for large engineering or animation workshops but not > > > > as a general computing devices. > > > > > > > > That isn’t to say you can’t use it that way, I’ve done it for a large > > > > part of my career as a desktop Linux sysadmin. But your question is > > > > about whether IBM or Red Hat would promote it as a Windows > > > > replacement. > > > > > > > > I suggest Fedora Workstation instead of Windows. > > > The thing that gets brought up to me if I ever mention Linux to a > > > friend is gaming. He's into all that World of Warcraft immersive > > > fantasy and 3D shoot-em-up stuff. High-resolution graphics, high frame > > > rate, probably only released for Windows stuff. > > Just to stick my oar in, the use of Linux for gaming has evolved > > enormously in the past couple of years, mainly owing to Valve's putting > > real money and effort into the Proton compatibility shim (built on > > Wine) in order to support the Steam Deck handheld, which is based on > > Arch Linux. I'm retired and took up gaming a few years ago. I used to > > jump through hoops to get Windows working in a VM with PCI passthrough > > so the guest could have direct access to the GPU. I haven't had to do > > that in at least two years. Not everything works, particularly games > > with anti-cheat systems implemented as kernel-level blobs, but I don;t > > care about those gamnes anyway so no loss. > > > > A look at https://www.protondb.com/https://www.protondb.com/ gives an > > idea of the current state of play (pun intended). Interestingly, the > > games that do work sometimes have better performance on Proton than on > > Windows. BTW, Steam is about to release SteamOS for competitor's > > handhelds, Lenovo being the first. > > > > Now back to our regularly scheduled program. > > I have had a look at games in Fedora under steam, and what I have found > is games that are tagged as Windows don't run under linux and games > tagged as Linux don't run under Windows. > I have also had issues with games tagged as Linux, not running in Fedora > because at the time the nvidia driver version from rpmfusion was too old > for what the game wanted, and I don't know of a Linux equivalent of > "Nvidia Experience" that allows the downloading and installation of > current nvidia drivers and also provides optimisation capabilities of > supported games. I can only say that you must be doing it wrong. Have you actually installed Steam on Fedora? See: $ rpm -qi steam-1.0.0.82-1.fc41.i686 Name : steam Version : 1.0.0.82 Release : 1.fc41 Architecture: i686 Install Date: Fri 29 Nov 2024 22:14:24 GMT Group : Unspecified Size : 19552823 License : Steam License Agreement and MIT Signature : RSA/SHA256, Sat 16 Nov 2024 10:52:08 GMT, Key ID 6a2af96194843c65 Source RPM : steam-1.0.0.82-1.fc41.src.rpm Build Date : Sun 10 Nov 2024 14:23:42 GMT Build Host : buildvm-03.online.rpmfusion.net Packager : RPM Fusion Vendor : RPM Fusion URL : http://www.steampowered.com/ Summary : Installer for the Steam software distribution service Description : Steam is a software distribution service with an online store, automated installation, automatic updates, achievements, SteamCloud synchronized savegame and screenshot functionality, and many social features. I've played multiple AAA games under both Steam and other systems (Lutris, Hero Games Launcher, etc.) and although there is the occasional tweak required to the Proton settings they have generally worked extremely well. I now have an AMD GPU but when I had an Nvidia the experience was essentially the same. I can even play remotely on my TV using the Sunshine server on Fedora and the Moonlight app on the TV box. poc -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
