> On 30 Nov 2024, at 09:22, Tim via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 10:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: >> With reference to the Fedora environment, if a package is required to >> be installed, would you recommend installing the repository version >> or download it with pip? > > The recommendation always was use your distro's packaging system if you > wanted a stable system. Yes > Of course you're screwed if what you want > isn't available for it. That leaves you with trying to create it, or > influencing someone else into doing it. The python way to isolate from the OS is to use the venv machinary. I'm guessing from your response you are not familiar with it. What venv gives you is a way to install all the dependencies for your python project into its own set of directories. You then run your script by using the venv's python program. Tl;dr - use venv if the OS does not provide the PyPI package you want to use. > > Or you take your chances and install it from outside of the distro's > ecosystem, and you get to play with all the pieces when it breaks. Use venv avoid this problem completely. > > You may be able to sandbox things to some extent, but that's going to > depend on how much of your system's doo-dahs make use of Python. > That's probably less of an problem if your PC is just a box you type > code on than something more general use. Any PC with just five > application on it is obviously going to have less interactions and > clashes than one with a hundred. Not a problem if you use venv. > > For these kinds of reasons (limiting breakage, and recovery from it) > that some people use virtual machines. They can set up a playpen > that's not the main OS. A playpen that they can dump if it goes > haywire and they still have a running system. Not required if you use venv. Barry > > -- > > uname -rsvp > Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 > > Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. > I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
