On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 06:49 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > The company we bought from had the policy that you had to have paid > support to download firmware updates after the warranty expired. You'd think (you'd wish) they'd get snared by the original release not being "fit for purpose" being against several laws that obligated them to providing something that was, and didn't let them weasel out after some arbitrary time limit. We have such laws about real products. You buy a hammer, it has to do what a hammer is supposed to do, and last for a reasonable time for that product at its price. Similarly, if you buy a database, you ought to be able to expect to do what a database is supposed to do, and work according to its instructions... But if you actually try to pin a supplier down to the laws regarding faulty products, even when it's demonstrably failing right there in front of you, them, and witnesses, some companies fight tooth and nail and blatantly break the law to escape their responsibilities. Unfortunately everyone's got used to bad software, and computer hardware, and nobody throws it back at their retailer for a refund. If everyone returned dud computing products the same way that they wouldn't accept a dishwasher that didn't work, they'd actually have to release properly working products to stay in business. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue