Re: Fedora 41 Install: Black Screen

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On 10/20/24 7:18 PM, John Mellor wrote:

On 2024-10-20 17:23, Barry wrote:
On 20 Oct 2024, at 13:53, John Mellor <john.mellor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have an older Fedora 40 machine that I tried to install Fedora 41 on, and got a surprise.
For a first attempt, I tried the as-documented dnf system-upgrade steps on a fully working and stock Fedora 40.  Upon reboot to actually do the install steps, a black screen is presented and everything had to stop.
For a second attempt, I elected to blow the Fedora-40 system away, and reinstall from iso.  The blackscreen was presented again, but this time there was also a mouse pointer visible.  Once again, there is no means of upgrading available.
This particular 2008 Dell machine has a vesa video card, and I am assuming that there is a new problem with the drivers in Fedora 41.
Is this a known problem, and is there going to be a fix before release?  Or is Fedora now dropping support for older machines?
Can you install inxi and post the output of `inxi -Fzxx` so we know your hardware details?

Here are the hw details:

ystem:
  Kernel: 6.8.5-301.fc40.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 2.41-34.fc40
  Console: pty pts/1 wm: gnome-shell DM: GDM Distro: Fedora Linux 40
    (Workstation Edition)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Studio 540 v: N/A serial: <filter>
    Chassis: type: 3 v: 01 serial: <filter>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0M017G v: A00 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: 1.0.11
    date: 03/02/2009 systemctl start libv
irtd

CPU:
  Info: quad core model: Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 bits: 64 type: MCP
    arch: Penryn rev: 7 cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2336 min/max: 2003/2336 cores: 1: 2336 2: 2336 3: 2336
    4: 2336 bogomips: 18662
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GT216 [GeForce GT 220] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nouveau
    v: kernel arch: Tesla pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: VGA-1
    empty: DVI-I-1,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a20 temp: 40.0 C
  Display: server: X.Org v: 23.2.4 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.4
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96
  Monitor-1: VGA-1 model: VGA G56x res: 1920x1080 dpi: 143
    diag: 434mm (17.1")
  API: OpenGL v: 3.3 vendor: mesa v: 24.0.5 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.1
    direct-render: yes renderer: NVA5 device-ID: 10de:0a20
  API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801JI HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3a3e
  Device-2: NVIDIA GT216 HDMI Audio vendor: eVga.com. driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be2
  API: ALSA v: k6.8.5-301.fc40.x86_64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.0.4 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active
    3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    port: e800 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
  IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.52 GiB used: 5.29 GiB (0.6%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST500DM002-1BD142 size: 465.76 GiB
    speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> temp: 33 C
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
    speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> temp: 33 C
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 930.52 GiB used: 5 GiB (0.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda3
  ID-2: /boot size: 973.4 MiB used: 296.5 MiB (30.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2
  ID-3: /home size: 930.52 GiB used: 5 GiB (0.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda3
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 6.77 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
    dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 40.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 1567 mobo: 1429
Info:
  Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est. available: 6.77 GiB used: 2.32 GiB (34.3%)
  Processes: 304 Power: uptime: 14m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 255
    target: graphical (5) default: graphical
  Packages: pm: rpm pkgs: N/A note: see --rpm Compilers: N/A Shell: Sudo
    v: 1.9.15p5 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.36

That is quite an old kernel. Have a GT610 video and had some problems with the 6.8.x kernels. Suggest you edit during the grub boot to add 3 to boot to the console and dnf update to current. There are rpmfusion drivers for the 6.10.x and 6.11.x kernels and the legacy NVIDIA cards. My GT610 system is f39 on kernel 6.10.7 and a GT710 system is running f41 kernel 6.11.3. sticking with X11 and XFCE
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