Tim: > > As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should > > move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of > > doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck > > with that) where you can just print to your printer through the system > > with you having to do little other than choose I want to print to > > /that/ one Barry Scott: > What I understand is that it's a reality because you cannot use a > printer with a phone or tablet without the printer being discoverable > and self describing with no driver being installer. > > A printer that cannot support phones if dead in the market so the > makers have to get this working. That I understand, although how often do /those/ users actually want to print something? I think I only tried it once, to see if it worked, in the 6 years that I've owned a phone that could do that. > Based on that work it will be practical to drop most of cups. I'm not > sure when this will happen for the default Fedora install. But it was > discussed in depty in the last year on the Fedora devel list. That's making an assumption that everyone is going to abandon their printers from before this era. I can imagine a backlash. Developers are very different from users, and live in a different headspace (or fantasy land, some would say). It wasn't long ago that one declared on this list that everyone has a good graphics card (a load of nonsense) so that running very cpu-intensive desktops was not a problem. It's really only gamers who're going to be running a $1000 graphics card (or any video card actually costs more than the rest of the computer). Modern printers are quite shite, are expensive with their consumables, often being cheaper to throw away and buy a whole new printer instead of buying new ink (even though the included demo ink packages are very small). And it's not that different with laser printers. Ignoring the consumables issue, they're short lived, anyway, as the plastic bits wear themselves out real quick, and unserviceable waste tanks fill up. Yes, you can get printers with large ink or toner tanks, though they're quite expensive. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue