On Mon, 2024-08-26 at 13:23 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Fulko Hew: > > > But 'shutdown' provided all the housekeeping work such as: > > > - disabling logins > > > - sending out messages to users screen warning them of the > > > impending > > > doom > > > - providing grace time > > > - unmounted file systems > > > - killed the system > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Same here. However these are reasonable measures on a multi-user > > system. On a single-user desktop they just get in the way, > > especially > > with journal-based filesystems. > > Things really oughta order unmounts, unmounts should happen pretty > quickly, be flagged as done, and the progress of shutting down be > monitored. Not, order unmounts, wait some time, and assume it > worked. > Likewise for various other shutdowns. > > Things may have terminated almost instantly without issues, things > may > have jammed and it still wouldn't have waited long enough. If > something sticks you really ought to be prompted about it. If you > don't have network mounts, databases running, mail servers currently > dealing with a queue, etc, I see no excuses for prolonged shutdowns. +1 poc -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue