On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:17 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 1:36 AM Tim via users > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > I find it highly improbable that there is a "delay reboot for X > > > > minutes for no reason whatsoever" setting somewhere, that > > > > simply > > > > needs to be changed. As Mr. Spock would say: "this is not > > > > logical". > > > > Tim: > > > Although that pretty much describes what I see on a friend's > > > iMac. > > > When you go to shutdown, there's a warning and a countdown before > > > it > > > does. With a button to skip waiting and do it now. > > > > > > > For the purposes of clarity, this is MacOS on a Mac. But just > > pointing > > out that computer programmers often do things that don't make much > > sense (the lack of explanation of why you're waiting). > > > Back in time, there was only 'shutdown'. And it had a default > timeout of 5 minutes to allow the shutdown message to > be delivered and seen by all the users so that they could > gracefully end their edit sessions, etc. before the machine > stopped. > > At some point 'halt/halt' and 'reboot' were added. > > But 'shutdown' provided all the housekeeping work such as: > - disabling logins > - sending out messages to users screen warning them of the impending > doom > - providing grace time > - unmounted file systems > - killed the system Same here. However these are reasonable measures on a multi-user system. On a single-user desktop they just get in the way, especially with journal-based filesystems. poc -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
