F40 dual-boot problem, was Re: What is Castor ? Att.Jonathan Billings.

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On 08/05/2024 21:57, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/8/24 1:13 PM, John Pilkington wrote:
On 08/05/2024 20:13, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/8/24 10:50 AM, John Pilkington wrote:
The harware was working well, before my recent upgrades from f38, briefly to f39 and now to f40.  Then I was using the rpmfusion 470xx builds of the nvidia legacy drivers.   Now the dual-boot box has no nvidia or nouveau rpms installed  (rpm -qa) although I suppose bits of config might remain;  inxi still finds nvidia traces:

Nouveau is included with the kernel, it doesn't have its own package.

xorg-x11-drv-nouveau is supplied by fedora, but I was told that the kernel driver was more up to date, so I removed the fformer.

xorg-x11-drv-nouveau is the xorg driver that uses (and requires) the kernel driver.  You need both.

llvmpipe means it's using software 3D rendering because it doesn't have a 3d hardware driver.

I don't think I want 3D

KDE/wayland uses 3D rendering.

   API: Vulkan v: 1.3.280 drivers: N/A surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland


$ sudo dmesg | less

[    0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=(hd2,gpt2)/vmlinuz-6.8.8-300.fc40.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root ro rd.driver.blacklist=nvidia modprobe.blacklist=nvidia nomodeset resume=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-swap rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/root rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/swap rhgb quiet rd.driver.blacklist=nvidia modprobe.blacklist=nvidia nomodeset

There are a lot of duplicates in that list.  If you include "nomodeset", then you'll be using the lowest common factor display options.  Is there a reason you don't want to use the rpmfusion drivers?  It appears that nouveau isn't working for your system, or else something is mixed up. You could check the logs for a previous boot that didn't work.

I have happily used the rpmfusion builds of 470xx until a few weeks ago; but it was said that wayland support was missing, and for some time akmods failed to build anyway.  I hoped to be able to use the reverse-engineered FOSS drivers.  And a few days ago, after reverting to 470xx, kwin_wayland appeared to be running 4 cpu cores at 90% and the mouse was unusable.

As far as I know, the NVidia drivers have had Wayland support for a long time.  That CPU usage is likely if you're using software 3D rendering. You need to sort out what you have installed.

On the linux-only box I have nvidia-gpu-firmware installed.  It may not be loading (MythTV says vdpau isn't available) but that system currently does the jobs that I want.

My apologies, by the way, for what looks like a hijack.

Yes, you definitely should have started a new thread.

but it seems better to continue here.

On the dual-boot box I have done

"sudo dnf remove *nouveau*", which removed nouveau-firmware and xorg-x11-drv-nouveau

"sudo dnf install *470xx*", which pulled in the rpmfusion builds of the legacy nvidia driver and updated the kernel command line. Wayland support has been said to start at series 490, which is why I had been looking at nouveau.

"sudo dnf upgrade" because things are moving quickly at present.

Now booting goes as expected, giving two screens at their expected resolution *BUT* the cursor movement is jerky, keyboard response is very slow, and "atop" shows 4 3GHz cores at 99%, for kwin_wayland. Ctrl/Alt/F3 is the only way to make progress.

Throughout this saga there have been fleeting complaints about the abrtd service. It's the only one that "systemctl" lists in red.

Ctrl/Alt/F1 says the abrtd.service failed to start and lists Dependency issues for four abrtd services. I haven't investigated more.

In some ways this is progress, but the system is less usable than the 800x600 nouveau-only form.

{{{

$ inxi -GA

Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] driver: nvidia v: 470.239.06
Device-2: Chicony HP 720p HD Monitor Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB Display: server: X.org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch tty: 100x37 resolution:
    1: 1360x768 2: 1920x1080
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,nvidia,swrast platforms: gbm,wayland,surfaceless,device API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 24.0.6 note: console (EGL sourced) renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 18.1.1 256 bits), NVIDIA GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.280 drivers: N/A surfaces: wayland
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-3: Chicony HP 720p HD Monitor Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB Device-4: C-Media USB PnP Sound Device driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid type: USB
  API: ALSA v: k6.8.8-300.fc40.x86_64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active

}}}
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