On 27/04/2024 04:28, Felix Miata wrote:
Andre Robatino composed on 2024-04-27 02:49 (UTC):
I have an old machine from 2008 with very old integrated graphics (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430). Up to and including F39, I was able to do a Live Workstation install simply by using the nomodeset boot option. With F40 that no longer works - it fails to come up in graphical. I ended up doing a netinstall, but it came up in text mode instead of graphical, and suggested VNC, which I was able to use to do a graphical install (necessary since I wanted to preserve /home, requiring custom partitioning). After installation, it turns out that by replacing gdm with another display manager (I used lxdm), I could even use GNOME, though screen locking, which requires gdm, doesn't work - not a big deal.
# inxi -GSaz --zl --hostname
System:
Host: mcp61 Kernel: 6.6.23-1-longterm arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 13.2.1 clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm parameters: root=LABEL=<filter>
ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume consoleblank=0 preempt=full
mitigations=off
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.10 tk: Qt v: 5.15.12 info: frameworks
v: 5.115.0 wm: kwin_x11 dm: 1: KDM 2: XDM Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed
20240403
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free: series: 304.xx
status: legacy (EOL~2017-09-xx) last: release: 304.137 kernel: 4.13
xorg: 1.19 arch: Curie process: 90-130nm built: 2003-2013 ports:
active: VGA-1 empty: none bus-ID: 00:0d.0 chip-ID: 10de:03d0
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.4
compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting dri: nouveau
gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 108 s-size: 395x246mm (15.55x9.69")
s-diag: 465mm (18.32")
Monitor-1: VGA-1 model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012
res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2 size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65")
diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia nouveau platforms: device: 0 egl: 1.4
drv: nouveau device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: egl: 1.4 drv: nouveau surfaceless:
egl: 1.4 drv: nouveau x11: egl: 1.4 drv: nouveau inactive: wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 2.1 vendor: mesa v: 24.0.3 glx-v: 1.4
direct-render: yes renderer: NV4C device-ID: 10de:03d0 memory: 115.2 MiB
unified: no
#
I've never tried Fedora on my old beast. It's functional in Debian 12 as well as
openSUSE TW and Leap, but if you diligently search the web, you're likely to find
confirmation that the 6150SE was likely the most troublesome and/or lowest value
GeForce NVidia ever put to market. If you wish to keep that PC useful, I suggest
finding a better GPU to install, even if that means it must be PCI rather than
PCIe. I have a similar aged P4D with a passively cooled GeForce 8400 PCI that does
a respectable job for something so old and inexpensive, and better than my 6150SE.
I would like to follow this up, but in relation to my two old boxes
running F39 with the low-end nvidia GT710 cards.
The single-boot box is now running acceptably with the nouveau driver.
The dual-boot box doesn't boot straight into graphics mode, pausing
while waiting to exit the plymouth screen and hanging after failing to
start abrtd.service.
ctrl-alt-F2 allows login, and plasmastart-wayland gives a 800x600
plasma screen and starts wifi. I haven't yet found a bootline that does
better than this. Mostly the system just freezes.
I had installed the updated rpmfusion 340xx packages, without useful
results, before trying the updated 470xx. There are still references to
a 340xx config in the Xorg log.
I hadn't used inxi before. Maybe posting the results will reveal
something...
{{{
2024041130 BST
Single-boot
#inxi -GSaz --zl --hostname
System:
Host: HPFed Kernel: 6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 2.40-14.fc39 clocksource: hpet avail: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz-6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64
root=/dev/mapper/fedora-root ro rd.driver.blacklist=nvidia
modprobe.blacklist=nvidia nouveau-drm.modeset=1 rd.lvm.lv=fedora/swap
rd.lvm.lv=fedora/root rhgb quiet
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.11 tk: Qt v: 5.15.12 info: frameworks
v: 5.115.0 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 2 dm: SDDM Distro: Fedora Linux 39
(Thirty Nine)
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free: series: 470.xx+
status: legacy-active (EOL~2024-09-xx) arch: Fermi 2 code: GF119/GK208
process: TSMC 28nm built: 2010-2016 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
lanes: 8
ports: active: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 empty: DVI-D-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0
chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID: 0300 temp: 45.0 C
Device-2: Conexant Systems (Rockwell) Geniatech T230 DVB-T2 TV Stick
driver: dvb_usb_dvbsky type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1
mode: 2.0
bus-ID: 1-2:2 chip-ID: 0572:c688 class-ID: 0000
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6
compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded:
fbdev,vesa
dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3048x1050 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 804x277mm (31.65x10.91")
s-diag: 850mm (33.48")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 pos: right model: Sony TV built: 2020
res: 1368x768 hz: 60 dpi: 49 gamma: 1.2 size: 708x398mm (27.87x15.67")
diag: 1836mm (72.3") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1360x768 min: 640x480
Monitor-2: VGA-1 pos: primary,left model: Dell 2009W serial: <filter>
built: 2009 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 99 gamma: 1.2
size: 433x271mm (17.05x10.67") diag: 511mm (20.1") ratio: 16:10 modes:
max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia nouveau platforms: device: 0 drv: nouveau
device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: nouveau surfaceless: drv: nouveau x11:
drv: nouveau inactive: wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 4.3 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.6 glx-v: 1.4
direct-render: yes renderer: NV106 device-ID: 10de:128b memory:
986.3 MiB
unified: no
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM
17.0.6 128 bits) driver: N/A device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: xcb,xlib
================
2024041140 BST
Dual-boot with Windows 10
#inxi -GSaz --zl --hostname
System:
Host: FedWin4c1 Kernel: 6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 2.40-14.fc39 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=(hd2,gpt2)/vmlinuz-6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64
root=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root ro
rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau
resume=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-swap
rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/root
rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/swap
rhgb quiet nomodeset
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.11 tk: Qt v: 5.15.12 info: frameworks
v: 5.115.0 wm: kwin_wayland with: krunner vt: 2 dm: SDDM Distro: Fedora
Linux 39 (Thirty Nine)
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: ASUSTeK GT710-SL-1GD5
driver: nvidia v: 470.239.06 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free:
series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2024-09-xx) arch: Fermi 2
code: GF119/GK208 process: TSMC 28nm built: 2010-2016 pcie: gen: 2
speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID:
0300
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: N/A alternate: nvidia
gpu: nvidia display-ID: 0
Monitor-1: Unknown-1 res: 800x600 size: N/A modes: N/A
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia platforms: device: 0 drv: nvidia
device: 2
drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: swrast wayland:
drv: swrast x11: drv: swrast inactive: device-1
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.6 glx-v: 1.4
direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6 256 bits)
device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 15.21 GiB unified: yes
display-ID: :0.0
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 2 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu
name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 driver: N/A device-ID: 10de:128b
surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland device: 1 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM
17.0.6 256 bits) driver: N/A device-ID: 10005:0000
surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland
}}}
John P
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