On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 18:47:37 -0700 Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 3/25/24 17:31, Franta Hanzlík wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:48:23 -0700 > > Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> On 3/25/24 11:52, Franta Hanzlík via users wrote: > [...] > >> > >> What do you mean by "system-wide"? I use it for site to site VPN. > > > > System-wide should be connections, which are not user-dependent (i.e. > > connections, which starts immediately after system boot up. - as typical > > for servers). > > Unlike user connections, which are activated only after the user logs in. > > And what I saw somewhere was that VPN connections can only be of > > the second kind - user initiated. > > But maybe it was some old information and now system-wide VPN connection > > is now also possible? > > I confess that I hardly know the NetworkManager, or only its graphical > > interface... > > Even wifi connections are "system-wide" connections. > And whatever information you had about VPNs is very old. I've used NM > for that for a long time. Really? Especially with WiFi connections, I thought they were in some user private profiles, for use only by a specific user... Hmm... I seem to be behind the times. ;) > [...] > >> > >> Right, don't use network-scripts. Use "nm-connection-editor" for > >> creating the PPPoE connection. I think upgrading to F39 would have > >> converted all your ifcfg files to NetworkManager connection files anyway. > > > > I have always preferred network-scripts over NetworkManager on the server, > > for its reliability and stability. And why should a useless program run on > > the server when I only need to activate the interface at startup and then > > nothing else? > > (a few (10?) years back I had an unpleasant experience with the NetworkManager > > when, after restarting a remote multihome server, it set the routing so > > badly that the machine became unreachable. Is it time to trust him again?). > > I've been using it for a long time on a remote many-homed server with no > issues and it doesn't use enough memory to bother me. That sounds encouraging, I'll try to get through the NetworkManager - I guess I won't have any other choice... Samuel, many thanks! -- Franta Hanzlik -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
