Re: xDSL + network-scripts connection not working in Fedora 39

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On 3/25/24 17:31, Franta Hanzlík wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:48:23 -0700
Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 3/25/24 11:52, Franta Hanzlík via users wrote:
After upgrading my gateway x86_64 Linux box to F39, my VDSL connection
to internet does not work, although I have all the necessary packages
(network-scripts, ppp, rp-pppoe) installed. And it all worked correctly
on the previous F37 system.
After some investigation the cause was clear - network-scripts ifup-ppp
runs adsl-start - and this script not exist in rp-pppoe-4.0-2.fc39.x86_64
package, but was in older rp-pppoe-3.15-4.fc37.x86_64.rpm (as symlink to
pppoe-start - which now also is not in the rp-pppoe-4.0 package.

It seem as in F39 also is not pppoe.service systemd unit - which would
also be a possible solution for an xDSL connection.

About NetworkManager - I read that it can not do system-wide VPN - which
I also need (net-to-net OpenVPN connection).

What do you mean by "system-wide"?  I use it for site to site VPN.

System-wide should be connections, which are not user-dependent (i.e.
connections, which starts immediately after system boot up. - as typical
for servers).
Unlike user connections, which are activated only after the user logs in.
And what I saw somewhere was that VPN connections can only be of
the second kind - user initiated.
But maybe it was some old information and now system-wide VPN connection
is now also possible?
I confess that I hardly know the NetworkManager, or only its graphical
interface...

Even wifi connections are "system-wide" connections.
And whatever information you had about VPNs is very old. I've used NM for that for a long time.

Is there any reasonable xDSL connection solution in this F39 distro?

(For now I downgrade rp-pppoe-4.0-2.fc39 to rp-pppoe-3.15-4.fc38, but
it is probably not very promising (the network-scripts package seems be
deprecated))

Right, don't use network-scripts.  Use "nm-connection-editor" for
creating the PPPoE connection.  I think upgrading to F39 would have
converted all your ifcfg files to NetworkManager connection files anyway.

I have always preferred network-scripts over NetworkManager on the server,
for its reliability and stability. And why should a useless program run on
the server when I only need to activate the interface at startup and then
nothing else?
(a few (10?) years back I had an unpleasant experience with the NetworkManager
when, after restarting a remote multihome server, it set the routing so
badly that the machine became unreachable. Is it time to trust him again?).

I've been using it for a long time on a remote many-homed server with no issues and it doesn't use enough memory to bother me.
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