On Wed Nov15'23 08:38:07AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > From: Stephen Morris <samorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 08:38:07 +1100 > To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [Off List] Re: emacs is hopeless > > On 15/11/23 06:36, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 11/14/2023 12:26 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > > > What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you > > > out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs > > > another key to come back in. > > > > You might want to consider nano; the most common commands are listed at > > the bottom of the window, including the one needed to get to the rest of > > them. > The one issue I've found with nano, which might be my lack of understanding > of it, is you can't paste anything in that has been copied outside of nano, > the paste listed at the bottom of the window does nothing in this scenario. > Thanks, everyone! I have used nano as part of the pine program in ancient times (never really realized it was an editor, until my students started using it) as part of the UW produced ecosystem (I am a UW product from around that time it was developed there). It can perhaps do syntax highlighting, but I am also looking for C mode, python mode, TeX mode, completions and the like which make editors such as emacs (or vi) so much more powerful. I have been trying to overcome my aversion to vi(m) and have been using nvim now for the past several hours. I have recovered at least a few of my keybindings (really readline things), and I presume I can figure out a better way of dealing with the fact that we have to constantly move between insert mode and some other mode just to occassionally save a file (in emacs, I got used to pressing Ctrl-x-Ctrl-s every few minutes just to save things while typing). Thanks again! Best wishes, Ranjan _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue