On 23 Oct at 05:39, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 03:16 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > Nothing other than than cloud backup gives both my > > wife and me the creeps. > > That's your call of course. It's a question of weighing the benefits > against potential risks, which only you can do. In my case I consider > the potential risks to be negligible and the benefits considerable, but > YMMV. I've been a consultant for over 45 years. I've seen fads come and go, along with more consistent changes that survive. Cloud isn't a fad--it's not going away--but it is still finding itself. And implementors are not, in my professional opinion, anywhere near a secure and sustainable final solution. None will sign meaningful contracts that hold them liable for downtime or data loss. Punitive charges for data extraction still exist--the "roach motel" model. Security isn't where it needs to be, especially considering they're a high-value centralized target for attack. And transparency across the field is lacking--who has access to the data resident on their servers, what redundancy, backup, and protection schemes are in use, etc. All that said, the solution I've been implementing is a hybrid model. Cloud for only non-critical data transfer with clients and customers--NO sensitive information whatsoever. On-premises, we provide a private cloud using NextCloud. It's easy to build on a Linux system, works on a VM, and is easy to use. I have a detailed generic guide to installation and configuration if anyone wishes. So you might consider putting up your own NextCloud instance. -- Dave Ihnat _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue