On 13 Jul 2023 at 17:38, Barry Scott wrote:
From: Barry Scott <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB?
Date sent: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 17:38:28 +0100
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To: "Michael D. Setzer" <mikes@xxxxxxxx>,
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> On 13 Jul 2023, at 15:40, Michael D. Setzer II via users
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> Drives where purchase via ebay.
>
> I personally would be concerned to by critical components from ebay.
> Its bad enough trusting the disk makers...
>
Living on Guam, don't have a large option of local places to buy
things. On computer store was know for gray market items, and
had high failure rates. They eventually went out of business. Only
have two litte ones, and mostly push limited number of expensive
systems.
> What I have been doing for years is buying so-called enterprise HDD that
> have better specs and a 5 year warranty.
> They typically claim a x10 lower error rate then the retail drives.
>
Any details on these drives?
Just ordered 2 WD Black 1TB drives from Ebay. Seems they are
higher end and actually cheaper than the WD BLUE? the BLUE's
where running around $70 each, theses were under $60 each.
Info on this seller seems better, and lists that disk are
manufactured in 2023, so not old. A couple hours later got an email
that they are shipped and provided serial number info??
Just use eBay message record archive
This is the hard drive Model number& S/N number
In case of need for return or warranty
We will check this number
WD10SPSX-22A6WT0
WX82A231PDE5
WX82A231P8ZT
Machines I have at home are not heavily used. Basically 6 or 8 core
AMD machines just running Fedora 37 at moment and BOINC -
Einstine program. Do build my G4L disk imaging software on one,
but backup data to other 4.
> For SSD I look closely a the "data written" limit for the drive, once that limit
> is exceeded the driver will likely fail.
> This used to be in TiB written now getting into the PiB written.
> Usually you pay more for the higher write limits.
>
> There are companies that will not publish the data limit and I will not buy
> any SSD that hides that critical spec.
>
> You can check that a drive is new by looking at the SMART data and the
> powered on hours.
> It should be a small number.
>
> This is example output from my work horse server that runs 24x365:
>
> $ smartctl -A /dev/sda
> smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.3.11-200.fc38.x86_64] (local
> build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke,
> www.smartmontools.org
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH
> TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
> 5
> Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
> 0
> 9
> Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
> 24973
>
Result I get on my notebook with drive.
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 4
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 19102
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 76
165 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 71173005
166 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 1
167 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 215
168 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 44
169 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 995
170 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
171 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
172 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
173 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 10
174 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 23
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 066 057 --- Old_age Always - 34 (Min/Max
23/57)
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
230 Unknown_SSD_Attribute 0x0032 001 001 --- Old_age Always - 1447420756305
232 Available_Reservd_Space 0x0033 100 100 004 Pre-fail Always - 100
233 Media_Wearout_Indicator 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 11104
234 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 13532
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0030 253 253 --- Old_age Offline - 12094
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0030 253 253 --- Old_age Offline - 3796
244 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 000 100 --- Old_age Always - 0
Was actually, expecting to see some kind of warning from smartctl.
Recall years ago with a regular drive getting a message about a
drive showing signs of failing, and replaced it.
Thanks again for info.
> Barry
>
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Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired)
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Guam - Where America's Day Begins
G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer
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