On 13 Jul 2023 at 9:50, George N. White III wrote: From: "George N. White III" <gnwiii@xxxxxxxxx> Date sent: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 09:50:57 -0300 Subject: Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB? To: mikes@xxxxxxxx, Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 7:53 PM Michael D. Setzer II via users > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Had the WD SSD just die in one of my 5 Home Fedora 37 > machines. Reply from WD is just it is out of warranty. > > I've had the same reply many times -- I always hope for a secret extension > for some known issue or a grace period at end-of-warranty. > > One of the miracles of modern manufacturing is the ability to fine tune > hardware reliability to match the warranty period. I worked in remote > sensing where large volumes of data pass through multi-stage processing > using large intermediate files. I learned to just replace disks at > end-of-warranty > because cleaning up the mess that resulted from a failed drive (sometimes > due > to ill-informed attempts to "fix" the failures by users getting advice off the > internet) > cost more than the replacement drives. > And generally, warranty only cover the cost of replacement of drive an nothing else. On my classroom Novell servers had duplexed SCSI drives. Disks paired across separate controllers so a disk or controller failure didn't cause a server shutdown. Fortunately with Maxtor and Seagate drives never had failures, but disks were very expensive. Not sure exactly when the warranties got so short. Recall standards where 3 to 5 years. Now seems they have dropped to almost nothing since this disk is less than 2 years old and out of warranty?? My first computer back in 1983 was a Heathkit H-120. Had option for 20M Seagate ST-225 disk, but was $2000. Computer was $2300 with dual cpus 8080/8088 8Mhz with 768K of Ram and 192K video board. Much nicer and faster than IBM PC. > The same drives can last much longer with less demanding workloads, > or fail in hours when a new user-written batch process that doesn't cleanup > properly is started just before a long weekend when the administrators > are literally "at sea". Overprovisioning also helps drives outlast > warranty periods. > > -- > George N. White III > +------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mikes@xxxxxxxx mailto:msetzerii@xxxxxxxxx Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +------------------------------------------------------------+ _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
