Once upon a time, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> said: > On Sat, 2023-04-29 at 10:23 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > I'd wager there are shell scripts using fgrep that were written on > > the first pdp-11 unix and are still in use today > > IIRC early PDP-11 UNIX (pre System V) only had grep. fgrep and egrep > are later additions. (Not trying to counter your argument). The warning (and presumably eventual removal) of egrep/fgrep is really pretty dumb. In most cases, the idea of removing deprecated functionality is to remove stale code and/or reduce code complexity. But there's zero benefit to removing egrep/fgrep, since the functionality will still be there (as grep -E and grep -F), and the "complexity" of each is a one-liner shell script (arguably, this could just be a couple of lines in grep to detect argv[0] and use symlinks). When running commands, egrep and fgrep are easier/shorter to type than grep -E and grep -F (espcially since the options are capitalized). I can easily work around the stupidity by just making egrep/fgrep shell aliases instead, bypassing the warning for interactive use, but that doesn't make it any less dumb. There is absolutely zero demonstrable benefit to this warning (and eventual removal), except to break old scripts and old typing habits. -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue