I'd wager there are shell scripts using fgrep that were written on the first pdp-11 unix and are still in use today, but appeasing someone's OCD is more important than backward compatibility for tens of thousands of systems all over the world. OK fine, I know I'll lose any argument here, so I've used my "big hammer" to write some new scripts to fix the issues I've found so far: https://tomhorsley.com/game/Mjolnir.html Whenever a dnf update brings back the stderr message for egrep and fgrep, I've got a script that copies the egrep and fgrep from fedora 37 that I saved off back over the top of the egrep and fgrep scripts in /usr/bin :-). No more annoying stderr spew. Also the -p and -i options of uname were broken, so another script I have notices if uname stops working again and moves the new /usr/bin/uname to /usr/bin/uname.real and copies in a unmae script that swaps a -i or -p option to be -m instead then invokes uname.real At least my sanity is saved :-). _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue