Re: Broken by the grub startup after have move whole the system from one SSHDD more small to a SSD more big by a software acronis

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 07:18:04 +0000
Dorian ROSSE <dorianbrice@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> dear Stan,
> 
> 
> for move the storage also i have use a version of try from a program
> created by acronis who remove the threat,
I looked them up, and they seem to be a well established company.
> 
> sysimage has disappeared since the weekend so i have recreated the
> part sysimage,

Anything done in the live system is lost when it is shut down.

> 
> neither chroot and chmod work thus if the SSD is uses encrypted have
> you a kind for repair that or does i need to use the SSD without
> encrypting ?

There probably is a way to enter your unlock password, but I am not
familiar with that.  

> from what i remember sda1 is a windows ten GMAO fortunately i update
> this system only one time by year because Microsoft is a factory of
> money the more update live for become the system windows slow in
> addition i understand there are threats but as i was say before a lot
> of update don't maker,

Does it boot?  Can you run windows?  I don't understand why there is
any mention of Fedora if it is a purely windows drive.  Is the fedora
there a virtual machine running under windows?

> I need an advice because you say fedora use NTFS although i have set
> up each start of the setup firstly by UEFI secondly by CSM naturally
> may i force the setup to start each time only by NTFS ?

native fedora cannot use ntfs.  It has to use one of ext4, btrfs, or
xfs.
> 
> sda2 has never live anymore from the SSHDD and the advice for the
> file fstab can't work as i show below this explaining because the
> root /mnt/sysimage can be readen only by reading :
> 
> [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ cat /mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab >
> /tmp/install-fstab.txt cat: /mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab: Aucun fichier ou
> dossier de ce type [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo cat
> /mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab > /tmp/install-fstab.txt cat:
> /mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
> [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo touch /mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab
> touch: impossible de faire un touch '/mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab': Aucun
> fichier ou dossier de ce type [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo mkdir
> /mnt/sysimage/etc/ mkdir: impossible de créer le répertoire «
> /mnt/sysimage/etc/ »: Système de fichiers accessible en lecture
> seulement

So, there is no fstab.  fedora can't run without an fstab.

> "ext4 is the older default, btrfs
> is the newer one.  Did fedora ever run from this drive?  It shouldn't
> be able to boot. How did you install?"
> 
> i know few fedora all ext4 part can work even 2 terabyte of storage
> btrfs can use more of 2 terabyte of storage , from what i remember
> sda1 is the part windows ten however sda2 has never leaven,
> 
> I never understood why you force myself to mount the pen USB this
> doesn't maker either you help myself or you stop to help myself,

I don't understand what you are saying here.  
> 
> i ever ask previously but you answer to the step next so how to
> repair the problem of shell who happen the bash doesn't live ?

When you boot a live system, it has bash on it.  By mounting the
problem partition on the sshdd, you can then use the live system's bash
to do the work you want to do, to fix the problems you want to fix,
even if the damaged system doesn't have a bash.  If you cannot mount
the damaged system from the working live system, you have no access to
it.  So, cannot fix anything.

> mount dev/sda2 can't work because as i have ever say windows ten is
> only on dev/sda1,

It seems you want sdb, but there is no mention of fedora on what you
show of sdb, only on sda.
 
> i need an explaining for the power on of the pen USB thus as i was
> type previously before the start of the pen USB with the graphic easy
> it ask either the first boot or the second boot finaly if you want
> and if you ask i launch two time the line of command smart who show
> whole parts for happening if fedora have one part root and one part
> home, right ?

But that is the problem, none of the data you have shown from this
system shows a fedora root or home partition.  Not on sda, not on sdb.
That is why I said it looks like it is not there.

> thanks you in advance to help myself,

I don't think I am helping.  I barely understand what you are saying,
so my suggestions seem to be making things worse.  I am giving up
because I think I am wasting my time and yours.  You need to find
someone who speaks your language so they understand your requests and
explanations.

I tried, and I failed.  Sorry.  And good luck.

Je ne pense pas vous aider.  Je comprends à peine ce que vous dites,
mes suggestions semblent donc aggraver les choses.  J'abandonne
parce que je pense que je perds mon temps et le vôtre.  Vous devez
trouver quelqu'un qui parle votre langue afin qu'il comprenne vos
demandes et vos explications.

J'ai essayé et j'ai échoué.  Je suis désolée.  Et bonne chance.

> ________________________________
> De : stan <upaitag@xxxxxxxx>
> Envoyé : mardi 25 avril 2023 21:10
> À : Dorian ROSSE <dorianbrice@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Objet : Re: Broken by the grub startup after have move whole the
> system from one SSHDD more small to a SSD more big by a software
> acronis
> 
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:27:28 +0000
> Dorian ROSSE <dorianbrice@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > dear stan,
> >
> >
> > the setup broken were wear two part for fedora either one root and
> > one home in addtion the fat32 was a windows ten although fedora
> > start with the pen USB unfortunately it start broken firstly the
> > troubleshouting ask either one first boot nor one second boot
> > however it go back for start in easy displaying,  
> 
> How did you move to the new hard drive?  It looks like it didn't
> preserve the existing layout on the old drive if both windows and
> fedora were working there.
> 
> >
> > secondly if i want attach the part sdb1 i happen one error
> > explaining by the shell who say that the system is readen only in
> > read :  
> Yes, you can display on the screen, but you cannot redirect output to
> a file.
> Show the
> output of
> ls -nd /mnt/sysimage
> You want it to look like this:
> drwxr-xr-x.  2 0 0 4096 May  8  2022 /mnt/sysimage
> with different date.
> The says owner is root (0) and the owner has rwx permissions.
> So, after you have created the directory sysimage, run
> chmod 755 /mnt/sysimage
> Then when you create the chroot, root will be able to write things to
> the file system as it will be read write for root.
> >
> > [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sysimage
> > mount: /mnt/sysimage: ATTENTION: source protégée en écriture, montée
> > en lecture seule.
> >
> > I show the happening from one good line of command :
> >
> > [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ lsblk --fs
> > NAME FSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID                                 FSAVAIL
> > FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS loop0
> >      squash 4.0
> > loop1
> >      ext4   1.0   Anaconda
> >                         2074eb84-624c-4790-83b6-8f3e4a82ae85
> > ├─live-rw
> > │    ext4   1.0   Anaconda
> > │                       2074eb84-624c-4790-83b6-8f3e4a82ae85    1,4G
> >   80% / └─live-base
> >      ext4   1.0   Anaconda
> >                         2074eb84-624c-4790-83b6-8f3e4a82ae85
> > loop2
> >
> > └─live-rw
> >      ext4   1.0   Anaconda
> >                         2074eb84-624c-4790-83b6-8f3e4a82ae85
> > 1,4G  
> 
> The above is the live system.
> 
> >   80% / sda
> > ├─sda1
> > │    vfat   FAT32       8610-1067
> > └─sda2
> >      ntfs         fedora
> >                         62C48A62C48A3875  
> 
> This is an ntfs filesystem for fedora.  fedora will be on ext4 or
> btrfs, depending on when it was installed.  ext4 is the older
> default, btrfs is the newer one.  Did fedora ever run from this
> drive?  It shouldn't be able to boot. How did you install?
> 
> Can you boot to the windows on this drive?  I don't think it exists
> anymore.
> 
> > sdb
> > └─sdb1
> >      vfat   FAT32 FEDORA-WS-L
> >                         B099-D599
> > 5,4G  
> This drive is all windows formatted, so there is no fedora that I can
> see, and if this is the EFI partition it is using the whole disk.
> 
> I would prefer the output of blkid, because it shows more information
> about the partitions.
> 
> I don't think there is anything recoverable on these hard drives.
> 
> After you have created the /mnt/sysimage directory read write, mount
> it as follows:
> mount /dev/sda2/ /mnt/sysimage
> 
> Then run
> ls /mnt/sysimage
> Does it show the root directory of fedora?
> afs  bin  boot  dev  etc  home  lib  lib64  lost+found  media  mnt
> opt proc  root  run  sbin  srv  sys  tmp  usr  var
> If it doesn't, there is no fedora left.
> 
> If it does, you can run the commands like:
> cat /mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab > /tmp/install-fstab.txt
> 
> Try the commands I gave before, but from the data you have provided so
> far, I think you are going to have to reinstall both windows and
> fedora, since it looks like both of them are gone.  It might be
> possible to change the filesystem type on the fedora partition with a
> partition tool, from ntfs to ext4 or btrfs, whichever is correct.  If
> grub is trying to read information written as ext4 or btrfs as ntfs,
> nothing is going to work.  Have you made any changes to the disk
> information?
> 
> You can install directly from the live system if fedora and windows
> are gone.
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