Re: Mailing lists and Discourse

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On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:44 PM Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:

> It appears that the gnome.org is hosted by RedHat, which is a member of
> the Gnome Foundation. That being the case, I would like to know if
> there is any danger (I use the word advisedly) of this list and others
> in the Fedora ecosphere suffering the same fate.

Maybe not right now, but it's only a matter of time. All these mailing lists 
are on borrowed time.

I understand that the explanation for the migration away from mailing lists 
is that maintaining the mailing lists is a hassle and takes up too much 
resources.

Large organizations on the scale of ESA, NASA, RedHat, ... are targets
for phishing, DOS attacks, etc., and also have services that are only
available to registered users. With mailing lists, user management is
handled by the user's mail server while forums require users to have a
login on the forum's host.  For NASA Earth Observations, each user
has to create an account and choose the services they want to use.
Different services may have specific terms the user agrees to honor.
Forums can easily delete posts that violate those terms without
worrying that a users will complain of censorship or launch a lawsuit.

I assume nation states make use of tracking data from forums
operated by agencies such as NASA.  Businesses certainly use data
gleaned from forum activities.

--
George N. White III

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