On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 16:50 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Many (perhaps all) of the gnome.org mailing lsits are being moved to > Discourse. This apparently is a decision made by the Gnome Foundation > and has caused a good deal of consternation on at least some of said > lists. I speak mainly for the Evolution list but I think the same is > true on at least some others. Some of the discussion can be seen at: I looked through the links, and glanced at some other things on there. A web forum, hmm? I don't use them. Sure, if you want to lock people into a website it suits the maintainers, but it doesn't suit me. I participated in a lot of mailing lists, less these days, but it was easy. All messages came to me, in my mail, and I could respond by mail. The interface is whichever real email client I prefer. I've *never* *participated* in web forums, I'd have to log into one website after another for each different thing. My only use of web forums is when I do a google search for something, and the results pull up some pages from a web forum that I'll read (often finding them a waste of time), but make no response to. Keeping track of where you are in them is a nightmare. People have tried that kind of thing, here. Suggesting support move to a web forum. We have hyperkitty to thank/curse for that. This list carries on, users maintaining its activity. The various website things come and go. Of course there's virtually nothing preventing existing users from just starting their own independent mailing list, other than becoming splitters and only discovered by new people in round-a-bout ways. You'd also become isolated, but then there's always been the argument that some projects (e.g. Gnome) ignores its users and does whatever it wants despite of them. It seems particularly dopey to me to move the support mechanism for an email program like Evolution away from using email. Every now and then some marketing drone declares that email is dead and everyone is moving over to their web-based platform. Every one of them that I've seen just sucks. My website host uses one of those ticketing support systems, it seems designed to make people give up in disgust when trying to resolve an issue. You can't email them, you can't phone them. As things become obstacles to use they get abandoned. The long-term participants who have answers to people's queries disappear when interaction becomes inconvenient. Leaving behind the blind leading the blind. You only have to look at things like the Ubuntu forums to see an example of that. -- uname -rsvp Linux 5.19.15-201.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Oct 13 18:58:38 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
