On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 16:30 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > A lot of the current yoof don't have computers but do have smartphones. > Recently I was speaking to a family member who teaches music at a local > college. He described how his students send him messages: > > * Write message on paper > * Place paper on some uniform background (e.g. their jeans) > * Open Instagram > * Take photo > * Share Instagram photo with correspondent > > Words fail me. They can't even open the camera app without using > Instagram :-) I can sort of understand it, it's designed around sharing pictures. Other things, like SMS reduce it to a blur, and we still have carriers that charge per message. In the sense that if he wanted them to send sheet music that makes sense (a large detailed image). But if it's just three lines of text like a handwritten SMS, that's just so daft. But I know where you're coming from. I remember being aghast that people thought Hotmail was the way email was done (later it'd be Yahoo, then Gmail, web interfaces). None of them had seen a real email client, so they couldn't understand the benefits. They can only grasp a tiny portion of what to do with various applications. I can't convince a friend to stop using the webmail interface for his ISP's mail service. It's terrible at handling attachments. He leaves everything in the inbox, years worth of useless stuff, only deleting a little bit to allow a new message to come in, but the mailbox is usually completely full when you try to email him. I tried to get someone else to get a music score PDF from my website. I told him the address, he kept saying it wasn't working. He wasn't typing the address in his browser's address bar, he was typing it into Google's search bar. And Google wasn't automatically sorting it out for him, probably one letter typo so it searches for something similar rather than fail with a useful error message. There are sections of my sites that use the norobot header, so Google hasn't indexed all of it, therefore it won't find some particular things for you if you give it an incorrect address. There's a large lack of comprehension. Like you mentioned, people thought MacOS was better for the clueless. But really it's just far less options for how you deal with it. If you don't understand what's involved, you're still floundering about. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue