On Tue, 2022-07-26 at 21:04 +0200, Alex wrote: > Pluton is being pitched as right now, as a firmware security device > to prevent malware". I think these kinds of things do not work > because at the end of the day the user will want to install whatever > software they want, so whatever that thing is can't really prevent > most malware a typical PC user will come accross. I think it's a fairly safe bet that much of the PC's woes is down to software piracy. People don't want to buy software, so they get a cracked version, or use something to crack it. And in doing so, they compromise their own system. Why the hell would you trust a hacker not to screw up your PC when they don't give a damn about screwing the developers of the software they're cracking. Are people completely stupid, or do they just do it part time? It's not beyond my imagination that not only do crackers not give a damn about stuffing up your PC, they're probably doing it (letting you crack software, or letting you have cracked software) on purpose as a way of building up their bot army. They're not just "sticking it to the man" and letting you have a free Photoshop in protest against capitalism, it's you that they're actually scamming. So, yes, I do see the value in locking down closed-source systems, to make them a reliable and safer system. The world would be a better place if Windows wasn't such an utter disaster. You might think you don't care if Windows self destructs while you never use it, but your medical data, your financial data, etc, is on other people's computers using those systems. On the other hand, I don't want it so it's impossible to get general PC hardware so we can't run open-source systems where we can create the systems we need. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.71.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:37:28 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure