Tim: >> Your ISP may be ignoring pings, many other services in between, and >> even your own router. Jack Craig: > but why can i traceroute up to my side of the me<-->isp lan > segment?? Because some of the equipment responds, others don't. If you look back at your first posting (repasted below), you'll see there's some in the middle that don't respond, either. They don't stop the connection going through past them, they just don't respond to pings. 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Linksys35675 [192.168.1.1] 2 9 ms 8 ms 17 ms 142-254-236-209.inf.spectrum.com [142.254.236.209] 3 12 ms 10 ms 11 ms lag-63.tjngcaac01h.netops.charter.com [24.30.172.49] 4 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms lag-29.lsaicaev01r.netops.charter.com [72.129.18.240] 5 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms lag-26.lsancarc01r.netops.charter.com [72.129.17.0] 6 19 ms 13 ms 14 ms lag-16.lsancarc0yw-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.6.102] 7 25 ms 37 ms 42 ms lag-3.pr2.lax10.netops.charter.com [107.14.19.41] 8 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 192.205.32.253 9 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.102] 10 24 ms 25 ms 25 ms 12.122.158.41 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms 99.134.39.15 14 25 ms 24 ms 26 ms 99.161.44.79 15 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms 108-90-204-76.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net [108.90.204.76] 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 > the att rtr knows of the public ip, why doesnt it get used? the > mystery so far. When it comes to things close to you, working backwards, inside your LAN you have your own private IPs. Your router will have its inside IP and an outside IP given to it by your ISP (those you can easily find out). What your router first connects to at your ISP may have your- side and their-side IPs. There will be routes going through the internals of the ISP through to their supplier. And then there's all the interconnects to more of the web. For pings, and more to the point, HTTP traffic to your webserver, they have to get through all of that. I think you're just going to have to talk to your ISP about why HTTP traffic doesn't get through. Though do look through your router's settings again. There may be firewall or privacy options that block things. And you would need to set up forwarding/routing rules go pass HTTP through it to your webserver. Some routers have a DMZ zone feature (demilitarised zone), where all traffic you haven't specifically set a rule up for can be forwarded through to a specific LAN IP, or to a ethernet specific socket on the router. Beware, though, it's unfiltered and unprotected by any firewall. All the gumph on the internet trying to connect to you will be allowed through it. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.59.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 23 16:47:03 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure