Hi Stan, Thanks for the response. > [snip] > > > I wonder what the problem is. Note that I did shut down > > chromium-browser and firefox before reboot. I rebooted into the 5.16 > > kernel ten days ago. I am on a Dell XPS13 and do nightly updates. I > > also hibernate every night and usually do not reboot for weeks: I can > > not recall why I decided to reboot 10 days ago, but it must have been > > some oddity. My guess is that I was hibernating and waking for at > > least 20 days before that. > > I don't think hibernating has anything to do with the problem. I do not think so either, thanks. > > > > Any suggestions? Let me know what additional information I can > > provide. If it is indeed a bug, what should I file under? > > I *think* it might be that one of the browsers is not closing a sound > callback or poll that it has set up. Pipewire or wireplumber try to > close it during shutdown, but it is orphaned, so no longer active. A > zombie! Someone had that problem with a discord connection recently on > the mailing list. Open the ticket against wireplumber, putting all the > information you have in this email. Again, I *think*, if my > speculation is correct, that wireplumber should, under certain > circumstances, ignore such links during shutdown. Thank you, I will do this. Question: is there more output I can provide from somewhere? > The browser *should* close such links when the tab is closed or on > shutdown, so it is the party really at fault, but having wireplumber > ignore such links during shutdown is a quick and dirty workaround. > You could experiment to see which browser is causing the issue and open > a bugzilla against that one if you can figure it out. But, that seems > to be completely antithetical to your work process. Right, initially, I was thinking it was zoom related but that is largely because zoom uses audio. So, I doubt that it is related to the browser strictly speaking. > > This is all guesses and speculation, so could be completely wrong. Thanks again, other suggestions would be welcome. Best wishes, Ranjan _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure