I have had good results from ThinkPads over the years. The newest addition is an E595 which "just works" with Fedors 35 and was relatively affordable. Business-class laptops and desktops also tend to be designed with service in mind, so they can be fixed. Another family member has an older HP Spectre X360 which runs mostly fine—the main issue is that scales correctly to the 4k display. This affect both Linux and Windows. Finally, I am enjoying the MacBook I use for work. It runs all the Unix software I want and 'Ctrl-A' and 'Ctrl-E' do the right thing in Emacs, the terminal, and the web browser. I wish there were a Linux desktop that did that and used the Command key the right way also. Jim _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure