On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 20:41 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Linux had an interesting quirk of using ".localdomain" as its LAN > domain (at least on the few distros I've played with). Microsoft may > have used .mshome or .home (as my router uses, actually it also uses > .router, not that it tells you about any of this). And plenty of > people have used .lan as their domain. But there's no well-defined > LAN domain name to use in lieu of registering a real domain name. Ooh, just found an actually sensible suggestion. Apparently home.arpa has been reserved for this kind of special use. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8375 "Reserved" in as much as it shouldn't end up being used on the internet, it shouldn't clash with existing oddball uses of some domain names in home networks (.home, .homenet, .host, .local, .corp, .mail, and various others, where your attempt to manually uses it clashes with some automatic system). ".arpa" is owned, and they're able to set rules about its usage (so home.arpa was possible). Trying to set up a new top level domain, such as .home, would require getting a plethora of organisations to agree to something new, and require getting another plethora of organisations to stop using it. But it won't give you a unique name. That's usually not a problem, and gives you a kind of "I'm Spartacus" anonymity when one of your hostnames gets written about in public. It might be an issue if you take your computer to a LAN party, but I wonder how often that happens any more (with wider spreading of broadband, so people can play games from home, and the last couple of years of the plague). There's some advice in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6762#appendix-G about some domain names that have been used (in the past) without causing their users problems: .intranet. .internal. .private. .corp. .home. .lan. But I have at least one modem/router that uses .home, and you have no control over it, and its not documented (I only found out by debugging a failing network). There's potential for headaches for anything that's not specifically designed for how you might use it. So, the other advice I mentioned still stands; if you want to use domain names within a network, registering a real one is the best approach. It also helps if you ever want to horse around with security certificates (yes, some people do use SSL, etc., within a LAN). The trouble with using someone else's domainname, such as .local, or even that .home.arpa one, is that the rules and recommendations can change on you. Years ago, Microsoft recommended people use .local, now you're advised not to use it, because it's used for a specific networking scheme. I have a domain name, I use it publically. And, I use a .lan. subdomain of it within my lan. Like this set of examples: www.example.com (a public website) server.lan.example.com (an internal server PC) mail.lan.example.com (an internal mail server) printer.lan.example.com (an internal printer) There's a Blake's 7 joke in there. ;-) -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.53.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jan 14 13:59:45 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure