if it is not installed, dnf install earlyoom. On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 4:04 PM Roger Heflin <rogerheflin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > You can go into the firefox about:config and reduce the number of > threads to less. Too many threads seem to make the ram creep worse. > > ps axuww | sort -k 6n > > I have earlyoom taking care of killing as needed. > > in /etc/default/earlyoom I have this set: > EARLYOOM_ARGS="-s 90,90 -r 300 -m 2 --prefer '^Web Content$' --avoid > '^(dnf|packagekitd|gnome-shell|gnome-session-c|gnome-session-b|lightdm|sddm|sddm-helper|gdm|gdm-wayland-ses|gdm-session-wor|gdm-x-session|Xorg|Xwayland|systemd|systemd-logind|dbus-daemon|dbus-broker|cinnamon|cinnamon-sessio|kwin_x11|kwin_wayland|plasmashell|ksmserver|plasma_session|startplasma-way|xfce4-session|mate-session|marco|lxqt-session|openbox)$'" > > > I probably need to increase the swap free (90% free required) to say > 95% so basically the killing starts if it starts to swap. > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:56 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I have 18 instances of Firefox running. All with multiple tabs for > > different projects. I use top a lot, but only with defaults and don't > > see from the manpage how to sort by RSS. Here is a 'simple' copy of top: > > > > Tasks: 266 total, 2 running, 264 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > > %Cpu(s): 17.4 us, 9.2 sy, 0.0 ni, 72.0 id, 0.0 wa, 1.2 hi, 0.2 si, > > 0.0 st > > MiB Mem : 7207.7 total, 678.7 free, 6235.8 used, 293.1 buff/cache > > MiB Swap: 23591.0 total, 17723.1 free, 5867.9 used. 680.5 avail Mem > > > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND > > 311428 rgm 20 0 4472108 282892 52312 S 32.3 3.8 83:11.00 > > GeckoMain > > 318444 rgm 20 0 2484192 42284 31188 S 11.6 0.6 4:15.29 > > Isolated Web + > > 995 root 20 0 978020 47764 17620 R 10.2 0.6 930:38.94 > > Xorg > > 1561 rgm 20 0 193304 16100 2216 S 8.3 0.2 1072:30 > > pipewire-pulse > > 124 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 4.6 0.0 201:38.20 > > kswapd0 > > 1559 rgm 20 0 131104 4572 2312 S 4.6 0.1 590:18.02 > > pipewire > > 311165 rgm 20 0 4433824 204088 30632 S 4.6 2.8 20:55.96 > > thunderbird > > 1359 rgm 20 0 1223972 16700 9748 S 4.0 0.2 75:50.16 > > xfwm4 > > 315376 rgm 20 0 2732856 133556 27256 S 4.0 1.8 6:08.20 > > Isolated Web + > > 38 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 3.6 0.0 62:49.14 > > kcompactd0 > > 312140 rgm 20 0 2488436 19196 13760 S 2.6 0.3 6:47.73 > > Isolated Web + > > 311727 rgm 20 0 2567436 74584 13952 S 2.3 1.0 7:45.49 > > Isolated Web + > > 316664 rgm 20 0 2696948 64788 15756 S 1.7 0.9 1:52.87 > > Isolated Web + > > 311949 rgm 20 0 2794036 86796 18400 S 1.3 1.2 4:34.23 > > Isolated Web + > > 313216 rgm 20 0 2708484 77072 16160 S 1.3 1.0 7:06.57 > > Isolated Web + > > 318480 rgm 20 0 2633452 19660 14432 S 1.3 0.3 0:34.27 > > Isolated Web + > > 319746 rgm 20 0 10612 4196 3324 R 1.3 0.1 0:00.11 top > > > > In a couple days, I will see the swap usage grow. Until I Quit firefox, > > then restart with all the old windows opening. > > > > But I really never exit Firefox unless forced to. > > > > On 1/11/22 16:33, John Mellor wrote: > > > What on earth are you doing in Firefox and Thunderbird to use that > > > swap? I have multiple 8GB machines running the same Fedora, Firefox > > > and Thunderbird, and virtually never get into swap at all. Two the > > > these machines are also Lenovo. This makes no sense, so there must be > > > something else hogging all that memory. Do a top and sort by RSS and > > > see what the real problem app is. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > John Mellor > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-11 12:30 p.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > >> The specs for my Lenovo x140e is 8GB, which I have and it seems to be > > >> not enough. > > >> > > >> $ free > > >> total used free shared buff/cache > > >> available > > >> Mem: 7380668 6930852 262676 1492 187140 > > >> 221144 > > >> Swap: 24157176 12044096 12113080 > > >> > > >> > > >> Firefox seems to be a bit part of the problem. I quit it and see: > > >> > > >> $ free > > >> total used free shared buff/cache > > >> available > > >> Mem: 7380668 5146100 1776840 1364 457728 > > >> 1948864 > > >> Swap: 24157176 5270956 18886220 > > >> > > >> I am running a VM at 2Gb and a couple of Thunderbird sessions. > > >> Closing these TB and waiting a while I drop down to > > >> > > >> $ free > > >> total used free shared buff/cache > > >> available > > >> Mem: 7380668 3751784 1148396 16228 2480488 > > >> 3272716 > > >> Swap: 24157176 2422956 21734220 > > >> > > >> > > >> but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at > > >> hand. Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots > > >> of memory and swapping like crazy. Probably bad for my SSD drive. > > >> > > >> So how to get to 16GB memory? > > >> > > >> What follows the x140e in the 12" format? I can't figure this out > > >> from basic Lenovo sales stuff. Probably going to have to find a > > >> Lenovo forum to get the info. > > >> > > >> But CompuRAM in UK says they can support up to 32GB on the x140e > > >> using "newer SO-DIMM chips". Crucial only sells 4GB for the x140e. > > >> > > >> Anyone have any knowledge on this? Other than booting and getting > > >> into settings, how do I figure out my bios version? And to see if > > >> Lenovo has a newer one that probably CompuRAM is counting on? > > >> > > >> Any US memory sources that will support more memory for the x140e? I > > >> really don't want to deal with overseas shipping and support. > > >> > > >> And back to the "newer" hardware question on 140 followon. > > >> > > >> thanks for any input. All this swapping is taking time when I really > > >> have to wait for the system to bring in what is needed and things to > > >> start working. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> Fedora Code of Conduct: > > >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > >> List Archives: > > >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > > >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > > > _______________________________________________ > > > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
