Re: More memory

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I have 18 instances of Firefox running.  All with multiple tabs for different projects.  I use top a lot, but only with defaults and don't see from the manpage how to sort by RSS.  Here is a 'simple' copy of top:

Tasks: 266 total,   2 running, 264 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 17.4 us,  9.2 sy,  0.0 ni, 72.0 id,  0.0 wa,  1.2 hi, 0.2 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7207.7 total,    678.7 free,   6235.8 used,    293.1 buff/cache
MiB Swap:  23591.0 total,  17723.1 free,   5867.9 used.    680.5 avail Mem

    PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
 311428 rgm       20   0 4472108 282892  52312 S  32.3   3.8 83:11.00 GeckoMain  318444 rgm       20   0 2484192  42284  31188 S  11.6   0.6 4:15.29 Isolated Web +     995 root      20   0  978020  47764  17620 R  10.2   0.6 930:38.94 Xorg    1561 rgm       20   0  193304  16100   2216 S   8.3   0.2 1072:30 pipewire-pulse     124 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   4.6   0.0 201:38.20 kswapd0    1559 rgm       20   0  131104   4572   2312 S   4.6   0.1 590:18.02 pipewire  311165 rgm       20   0 4433824 204088  30632 S   4.6   2.8 20:55.96 thunderbird    1359 rgm       20   0 1223972  16700   9748 S   4.0   0.2 75:50.16 xfwm4  315376 rgm       20   0 2732856 133556  27256 S   4.0   1.8 6:08.20 Isolated Web +      38 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   3.6   0.0 62:49.14 kcompactd0  312140 rgm       20   0 2488436  19196  13760 S   2.6   0.3 6:47.73 Isolated Web +  311727 rgm       20   0 2567436  74584  13952 S   2.3   1.0 7:45.49 Isolated Web +  316664 rgm       20   0 2696948  64788  15756 S   1.7   0.9 1:52.87 Isolated Web +  311949 rgm       20   0 2794036  86796  18400 S   1.3   1.2 4:34.23 Isolated Web +  313216 rgm       20   0 2708484  77072  16160 S   1.3   1.0 7:06.57 Isolated Web +  318480 rgm       20   0 2633452  19660  14432 S   1.3   0.3 0:34.27 Isolated Web +
 319746 rgm       20   0   10612   4196   3324 R   1.3   0.1 0:00.11 top

In a couple days, I will see the swap usage grow.  Until I Quit firefox, then restart with all the old windows opening.

But I really never exit Firefox unless forced to.

On 1/11/22 16:33, John Mellor wrote:
What on earth are you doing in Firefox and Thunderbird to use that swap? I have multiple 8GB machines running the same Fedora, Firefox and Thunderbird, and virtually never get into swap at all.  Two the these machines are also Lenovo.  This makes no sense, so there must be something else hogging all that memory. Do a top and sort by RSS and see what the real problem app is.

--

John Mellor


On 2022-01-11 12:30 p.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote:
The specs for my Lenovo x140e is 8GB, which I have and it seems to be not enough.

$ free
               total        used        free      shared buff/cache   available Mem:         7380668     6930852      262676        1492 187140      221144
Swap:       24157176    12044096    12113080


Firefox seems to be a bit part of the problem.   I quit it and see:

$ free
               total        used        free      shared buff/cache   available Mem:         7380668     5146100     1776840        1364 457728     1948864
Swap:       24157176     5270956    18886220

I am running a VM at 2Gb and a couple of Thunderbird sessions. Closing these TB and waiting a while I drop down to

$ free
               total        used        free      shared buff/cache   available Mem:         7380668     3751784     1148396       16228 2480488     3272716
Swap:       24157176     2422956    21734220


but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at hand.  Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots of memory and swapping like crazy.  Probably bad for my SSD drive.

So how to get to 16GB memory?

What follows the x140e in the 12" format?  I can't figure this out from basic Lenovo sales stuff.  Probably going to have to find a Lenovo forum to get the info.

But CompuRAM in UK says they can support up to 32GB on the x140e using "newer SO-DIMM chips".  Crucial only sells 4GB for the x140e.

Anyone have any knowledge on this?  Other than booting and getting into settings, how do I figure out my bios version?  And to see if Lenovo has a newer one that probably CompuRAM is counting on?

Any US memory sources that will support more memory for the x140e? I really don't want to deal with overseas shipping and support.

And back to the "newer" hardware question on 140 followon.

thanks for any input.  All this swapping is taking time when I really have to wait for the system to bring in what is needed and things to start working.

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