On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 09:20, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 1/11/22 07:15, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Tim via users writes:
>
>> Tim:
>> >> I find this just crazy. Why should just the desktop interface
>> >> require a beefy graphics card? I use Mate because of that
>> >> silliness.
>>
>> Samuel Sieb:
>> > It doesn't need to be beefy. Pretty much any video card made in the
>> > last 10 years should work. Since the capability is there, why not
>> > use it to make the desktop work better?
>>
>> Yeah, right. Slowly opening menus, slowly spinning desktop cubes,
>> hover and wait before continuing, splash screens and other animations
>> that delay me doing something "make it work better"?
>
> I agree. Having said that: if Gnome wants to target the power user,
> with the latest high-end video hardware, the kind who follows the
> latest UI trends, then I see nothing wrong with that, with Gnome
> becoming a boutique, specialty UI that targets a specific userbase.
>
> Sadly, I expect that Fedora at some point will become exclusively
> Gnome and KDE, because only these stacks will support Wayland, in
> order to ditch X, and also target the same userbase. This won't happen
> anytime soon, but it will happen.
Much of Fedora is user developed. So this need not be the case. It is
clear from what I read over in Xfce-land that better tools are needed.
Probably to even better migrate Gnome and KDE to Wayland.
This is a bigger change than systemd and firewalld. But we made those.
We will be on Wayland across the board, it seems, in 5 years or less.
Wayland will push app devs to use big toolkits so they don't have to work
with low-level API's. This will still be a lot of work for older apps that rely
directly on X11, and may force UI changes. Non-Western developers are
becoming a major force but have less experience with legacy X11 apps
so may prefer developing new apps from scratch over migrating existing
apps to Wayland. They may, however, be big contributors to Wayland
toolkits as they encounter bugs and coverage gaps.
--
George N. White III
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