On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 14:17:01 -0400 murph nj <murphnj+fedora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm having an issue shutting down. [snip] > I haven't found anything interesting in /var/log/messages regarding > it. > > Any suggestions to further troubleshooting? I think this is an artifact of the shutdown process. It is supposition on my part, but I think it is just like the startup process, so that things are shutdown asynchronously. Thus from time to time, a dependency is not met because something is too slow or too fast, and it leads to a race condition, and the outcome you are seeing. I also occasionally see the same thing (in rawhide, future F36), but for a different process. I think the last one I saw was for something called 'User Manager'. You might also check the journal with journalctl -r and page down to the last shutdown. It is possible systemd placed a message there preferentially. Is there any kind of message about waiting for something? Other than that, it would require digging into the scheduling of systemd during shutdown, looking at dependencies for the process you are waiting on, and tweaking timings through trial and error to see which removes it. Infeasible, I think. If systemd had a synchronous (sequential) startup and shutdown, these could be deterministically tuned out, but it would probably be much slower on both sides. You could open a bugzilla just in case someone knowledgeable immediately recognizes the problem and fixes it. Or, the next time they are tweaking that area, they might remember it and have a look for anything obvious. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure