Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

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https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/optiplex-308
0-desktop/optiplex3080_micro_specs/boot-menu?guid=gu
id-8fc0315f-0cbf-461a-996f-54a98f99d05a&lang=en-us

Shows only.
The options are:

    UEFI Boot:
        Windows Boot Manager

The bios option only talk about updating the bios from 
options if you can't do it from windows.

The exact same USB boots fine from the Dell 3070 units. 
Also my Dell desktop has no problem seeing the USB and 
booting from one that has grub4dos, but it does show up 
under a regular USB option in contrace to the UEFI USB.



On 10 Sep 2021 at 19:24, Jonathan Billings wrote:

From:	Jonathan Billings <billings@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject:	Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??
Date sent:	Fri, 10 Sep 2021 19:24:08 -0400
To:	"Michael D. Setzer II" <mikes@xxxxxxxx>
Copies to:	Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> On Sep 10, 2021, at 17:32, Michael D. Setzer II <mikes@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>     That is what I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to make a 
>     Flash that has EFI boot setup. Might be if I had a system 
>     setup with an EFI boot, I could place the kernel files in a 
>     similar process to the 40_custom on the standard grub2. 
>     I've tried a few options that created a flash that is seen 
>     as 
>     a UEFI boot flash, but putting the iso image as some use 
>     or the kernel and ramdisk files in places examples show, 
>     it boots, and I can select but get blank screens or error 
>     messages that don't give info. Should have documented 
>     all of that, but once something failed went on to try other 
>     options.
> 
> Give up trying to use grub2-install, it doesn’t do what you need it to do.
> 
> UEFI boots off EFI executables on a fat32 volume, you don’t need to install special 
> sectors on the beginning of the disk, so you don’t really need to run fancy 
> commands, just ‘cp’.
> 
>     Seen some post on Windows 11 hardware 
>     requirements, 
>     and it might soon make only secure boot a 
>     requirement 
>     for anyone.
> 
>     The UEFI spec says that on x86_64 systems you 
>     should be able to
>     disable secure boot. Dell most likely has that option, 
>     because they
>     have a lot of customers who need it. (for example, if 
>     you use nvidia
>     and CUDA, you'll need to disable secure boot or 
>     manually install your
>     own signing keys)
>     
>     Think Disabling the Secure boot is not an issue. Person 
>     has Dell 3070 machines that allow for the regular USB 
>     boot, but just got 140 new Dell 3080 machines, and they 
>     seem to have completely elimanated the option??
> 
> According to the manual:
> 
> Make sure you have USB boot enabled:
> 
> https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/optiplex-3080-desktop/optiplex3080_m
> icro_specs/secure-boot-options?guid=guid-6f850c24-e71e-4b82-b498-c0dd48e2181
> 0&lang=en-us 
> 
> Under “USB configuration.
> 
> Also, according to this:
> 
> https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/optiplex-3080-desktop/optiplex3080_m
> icro_specs/secure-boot-options?guid=guid-6f850c24-e71e-4b82-b498-c0dd48e2181
> 0&lang=en-us 
> 
> Hitting F12 will list all *valid* boot options. Most likely your boot disk isn’t valid if 
> you have USB boot enabled.
> 

All those options are talking about Secure boot keys. 
Turning off the Secure boot is not an issue. The user has 
done that, but the exact same USB Flash that boots fine 
on a 3070 doesn't show up as an option on the 3080.

He can take a hard disk from a 3080 machine, install it in 
a 3070 machine, boot from the exact same USB on the 
3070, and create and image with the 3070. The exact 
same USB does not show up on the 3080 as a boot option. 
Yes, it is not currently an EFI Flash so would not show up 
as a UEFI Flash boot option, but it also doesn't show up 
as a regular USB boot option.

You seem to be stuck on harping about turning off secure 
boot, but that has been done with no problem.


> 
>
> Jonathan Billings

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