On 10 Sep 2021 at 8:23, Jonathan Billings wrote: Date sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:23:09 -0400 From: Jonathan Billings <billings@xxxxxxxxxx> To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 03:21:48PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > > More to look at, but less hope of finding a easy/simple > > solution. Just downloaded and build 3 new kernels from > > kernel.org, and with the regular (non EFI) they all work > > just fine. > > Thanks for the info.. > > I build and boot upstream kernels quite often, and I do this on Fedora > systems with UEFI and Secure Boot turned off. But I typically am just > rebuilding the rawhide kernel and adding my patches to the patch > list in the spec, building the kernel and installing the package (if > it succeeds to build). > > It's so much easier to just add kernels to a working UEFI build than > try to generate a base UEFI boot structure from scratch -- and anyway, > what's the point of having a booting kernel without a known good base > OS to run under it? > Totally missing the point of the G4L project. It is to make bare metal images of disk or partitions. You can't make an image if the partition is running on the disk since the contents is modified with it runs. The G4l loads the kernel and file system in ram so the disk is free to copied or reimaged. I've even reimaged 20 machines at one time using udpcast. Can restore windows and other partition directly from the grub menu. Interesting that you can tweak the kernel the way you want, but as you stated, you have the secure boot option turned off, so doesn't that defeat part of what the UEFI is suppose to do? I could probable boot from a Fedora live cd, and install the 23 packages that are not included that G4L uses at various points, and it would work. But that is boot a 2G OS instead of a 10M kernel and 30M Filesytem. 50 times the size and it requires internet access to download the 23 packages. Additional, after I did that, I just want to see if I could do a full update of the live cd. Ran the dnf update, and it reported that it was short almost 400M to be able do the update, so couldn't even run a fully updated system. At present, on my build machine, I have a script that copies any updates from the Fedora system that are used by the package, and can build a complete Image in about 12 minutes. Building new kernels from source code takes about 10 minutes. So, the G4L isn't trying to be a complete OS, but server the needs of some. At present, it shows I had 271 downloads this week from sourceforge site, and it is on other places. There is also Clonzilla and other packages that do similar things. The early Norton Ghost (Actual another company made it before Norton bought it). That actual ran from a DOS boot. So, it is a special purpose tool.. Perhaps in the near future Secure boot will be the only options, and you will lose your ability to tweak systems as well. > -- > Jonathan Billings <billings@xxxxxxxxxx> > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
