See far below/ -----Original Message----- From: Tim via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 9:45 AM To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: OT: ink jet printers On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 12:32 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > If you go with a color laser, be aware that the toner cartridges they > send (starter toner) is only 10% filled and you will run out very > quickly. Bloody hell! How do these companies get away with such crapola? I only use an older b&w laser, but I buy the normal refills for (which ain't cheap). Plenty of shops offer you cheap refilled/refurbished ones, but I've had bad experiences with crappy toner and worn out drums. Mine's an office printer, with very high capacity, and built to survive heavy usage. With thousands of pages, and many years life out of the toner cartridge (since I don't print anywhere near that many). -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 10 13:32:12 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure This is common practice for decades... ;-( For major companies, it's their business model: Sort;y after introduction printer-prices drop like a brick, and all loss they think they should compensate through the sale of toner & ink. Hence they tried hindering competition by adding (essential) ID-chips into replacement cartridges. Or check the amount of printed pages, to frustrate ink-refillers. I believe after a court-session HP &Co had to abandon this, but still printers check if genuine cartridges, or alternatives have been used. And if you ever need them to do a repair-job (even within guarantee period) you can guess how they reply. Years ago (at the time of my Deskjet 970Cxi) I was told that ink was more precious than heroin. Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het elektronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure