Tim, with mangled quoting by crapmail programs, come on you've had decades to get this shit right: > > I reckon the default thought of most people who're suddenly faced > with > > a computer failing a security test is not going to be that > something > > has changed on them without authority, but that something has gone > > wrong. They're going to try and reset something, rather than work > out > > if they've been compromised. Stephen J. Turnbull > Indeed. Pragmatically speaking, I don't think they're wrong, do you? Quite probably it *is* a fault, nine times out of ten (which makes you ignore the time it's really a problem). With badly engineered hardware, software, and stupidly worded error messages, the blame is really not on the user. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 10 13:32:12 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure