George N. White III: > The forums for some of the mission critical applications have seen > cases where users were told to install an updated distro package. > User then reports that the update had no effect (because the old > library is still being used) and proceeds to run wild reinstalling > the OS from scratch, etc. Forums get blamed for recommending updates > that trashed the users system. And that's fair blame, if half-arsed advice is given. And it's not that hard to advise that they may need to reboot, too. One of my peeves about Ubuntu (years ago, but may still apply), was that their forums were full of Windows escapees, still carrying on in the same way. Not knowing what they were doing, yet giving (bad) cargo cult advice, and carrying on in a Windows manner. For a lot of their users I saw no reason why they should have left Windows. Many still wanted to run Windows apps. The reinstall and reboot mantra was still going on. As well as the attitude of - just try adding yet more stuff, randomly without knowing what you're doing, in the hope that it'll solve your problem. And there was still a general acceptance that it was okay for computers to crash and work in crazy ways. I only used Windows for a short while, I'd used better before, and knew that it's a bad OS. I didn't want to carry on using it, nor something else just as bad. I saw Ubuntu as no real improvement. The OS wasn't that great, and the user support was worse. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 10 13:32:12 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure